[nagdu] School Applications

GARY STEEVES rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca
Thu Sep 8 17:27:04 UTC 2011 

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that little issue with GDD, that they couldn't afford to fly clients there. Since I live in Vancouver I had figured I could have got a lion's club to help. We often have pretty cheap flights to GDD. Besides having poodles, what appealed to me was that  it wwas a small school.

Hopefully I'm many years away from having to have to find a school for poodles. Bogart seems to be surviving his first real illness. He's been on his meds for a day and a half now. He didn't do a number 2 at all yesterday so I was expecting to be woken up during the night to go out. I heard him whining around 4am so jumped out of bed, threw on some clothes and got him outside. We had a brisk walk and he finally did a #2. It wasn't  quite solid yet but it was a far cry from what had come out of him last thursday and friday, let alone just yellow fluid on the weekend. He was so pleased to have an almost normal pooh you could tell. He was bouncing around playing with his leash, leaning on me and rrubbing his face aginst my leg (poodles signs of affection for certain) The neat thing about dogs is once they sstart getting better they seem to forget they were ever sick and are back to bouncing around. He's still pretty worn out which I can tell by how quickly he went to his bed at work but considering he lost about 5 pounds in a week no doubt he will take a bit of time to get back up to full speed.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:45 am
Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> Yah, but Pilot is getting more grads!  There are at least 2 
> of us in Ann Arbor.  The other is a man with a 
> golden.  When I looked into Guide Dogs of the Desert, I got 
> the impression they had poodles and doodles as well.  They 
> were one of the schools who couldn't fly me out there.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Kinney" 
> <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
> 
> 
> >Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
> >interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the 
> guide dog
> >world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these 
> days. In
> >another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
> >reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one 
> through a
> >program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching 
> Guide Dog of
> >the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from 
> them just
> >because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The 
> people>with a medical need for one will, naturally, take 
> precedent. Still, it's
> >an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
> >owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in 
> place to do
> >that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another 
> reason I'm
> >interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie 
> guides. They
> >are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm 
> mournfully>emptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then 
> of course, I am
> >reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy 
> poodle and
> >can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
> >
> >I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
> >around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
> >months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
> >understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally 
> cracked me
> >and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the 
> breed, so I
> >got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
> >against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
> >spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and 
> started>to fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on 
> about the size of
> >his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
> >doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do 
> you put
> >all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new 
> doodle guide
> >user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask 
> her. I can't
> >figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
> >She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in 
> the Honored
> >Citizen (ha
> >!) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the 
> poodle>leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m 
> pretty sure the
> >poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a 
> bit and
> >just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles 
> down safely
> >and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and 
> ... I
> >should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, 
> but now
> >when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered 
> as a
> >guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
> >
> >And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the 
> yellow ones,
> >since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
> >and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
> >contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so 
> numerous, and
> >why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to 
> be just
> >so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
> >taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long 
> ago. I
> >found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than 
> Mitzi and
> >about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some 
> 'tude out
> >of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not 
> to be too
> >strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and 
> they work
> >together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
> >well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just 
> totally>laid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I 
> wondered? Nah...
> >When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to 
> having such a
> >lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
> >with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
> >
> >Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
> >
> >Tami
> >
> >On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> >>Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they 
> actually breed
> >>them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I 
> think that the
> >>doodles are donated.
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Kinney" 
> <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>>>To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
> >>
> >>
> >>> Gary,
> >>>
> >>> Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide 
> Dogs of the
> >>> Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but 
> they do seem
> >>> to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait 
> for a
> >>> poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy 
> with their
> >>> experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with 
> many grads in
> >>> this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that 
> program, which
> >>> is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have 
> learned a
> >>> whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi, 
> because that's
> >>> where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other 
> breeds, but
> >>> they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
> >>> though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one; 
> however, you
> >>> will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle 
> users around
> >>> here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
> >>>
> >>> Tami
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> >>>> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle 
> so was
> >>>> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork 
> into all the
> >>>> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the 
> following may. I
> >>>> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would 
> have been
> >>>> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been 
> about a >> year
> >>>> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself 
> for such >> long
> >>>> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
> >>>>
> >>>> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority 
> of the >> needs
> >>>> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It 
> is always
> >>>> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs 
> to get >> their
> >>>> feelings on the school as long as you remember that  
> everyone is
> >>>> different so their impressions will vary as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> >>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
> >>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
> Dog Users"
> >>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> > Hi Miranda.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
> >>>> > one.  I took
> >>>> > the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a 
> student and
> >>>> > was at the
> >>>> > time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere 
> that could >> > place
> >>>> > me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an 
> interview>>>> > in a month and
> >>>> > a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
> >>>> > that.  I think
> >>>> > it usually takes longer though.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
> >>>> > abnormal to
> >>>> > call and check on things.  It is also easy if you 
> can email
> >>>> > someone in
> >>>> > admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--
> if it has
> >>>> > been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
> >>>> > with this.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Good luck!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > > Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
> >>>> > all, I suspect
> >>>> > > that sometimes these things go slower because of 
> vacations and
> >>>> > the like.
> >>>> > > Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
> >>>> > training dogs and the
> >>>> > > like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
> >>>> > some kind of
> >>>> > > time line.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
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