[nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications

Tami Kinney tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Thu Sep 8 19:02:56 UTC 2011


Lab mixes abound around these parts. They're always wonderful, whether
anybody knows what the other half is or not. /smile/

On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 11:57 -0500, Julie J. wrote: 
> Both of my dogs are lab mixes.  Belle is a mystery, maybe Greyhound, but 
> I really don't know.  Monty is lab and Boxer mix.
> 
> Julie
> 
> > That must be a poodle thing!  Holly and for that matter Pez can curl 
> > up extremely small!
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications
> >
> >
> >> Tami,
> >>
> >> It's interesting that Monty is much easier to fit into small spaces 
> >> than Belle ever was.  Belle is 24 or 25 inches at the shoulder and 
> >> about 75 pounds.  Monty is like 27 inches tall and 85 pounds.  
> >> However he curls up. Belle is not an adept curler.
> >>
> >> I don't think I could work with one of the tiny guides that are so 
> >> popular these days.  Well tiny to me.  To everyone else they are 
> >> normal sized! *smile*  I really enjoy my big and tall dog.
> >>
> >> Julie
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/8/2011 10:45 AM, Tami Kinney wrote:
> >>> Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
> >>> interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the guide dog
> >>> world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these days. In
> >>> another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
> >>> reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one through a
> >>> program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching Guide Dog of
> >>> the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from them just
> >>> because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The people
> >>> with a medical need for one will, naturally, take precedent. Still, 
> >>> it's
> >>> an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
> >>> owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in place 
> >>> to do
> >>> that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another reason 
> >>> I'm
> >>> interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie guides. They
> >>> are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm 
> >>> mournfully
> >>> emptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then of course, I am
> >>> reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy poodle and
> >>> can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
> >>>
> >>> I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
> >>> around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
> >>> months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
> >>> understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally cracked me
> >>> and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the breed, 
> >>> so I
> >>> got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
> >>> against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
> >>> spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and started
> >>> to fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on about the size of
> >>> his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
> >>> doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do you put
> >>> all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new doodle guide
> >>> user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask her. I 
> >>> can't
> >>> figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
> >>> She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in the 
> >>> Honored
> >>> Citizen (ha
> >>> !) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the poodle
> >>> leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m pretty sure the
> >>> poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a bit and
> >>> just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles down safely
> >>> and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and ... I
> >>> should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, but now
> >>> when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered as a
> >>> guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
> >>>
> >>> And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the yellow 
> >>> ones,
> >>> since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
> >>> and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
> >>> contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so numerous, and
> >>> why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to be just
> >>> so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
> >>> taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long ago. I
> >>> found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than Mitzi and
> >>> about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some 'tude 
> >>> out
> >>> of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not to be 
> >>> too
> >>> strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and they work
> >>> together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
> >>> well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just totally
> >>> laid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I wondered? Nah...
> >>> When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to having such a
> >>> lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
> >>> with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
> >>>
> >>> Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
> >>>
> >>> Tami
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> >>>> Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they 
> >>>> actually breed
> >>>> them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I think that 
> >>>> the
> >>>> doodles are donated.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Tami Kinney"<tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> >>>> To:<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Gary,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide Dogs of 
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but they do 
> >>>>> seem
> >>>>> to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait for a
> >>>>> poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy with 
> >>>>> their
> >>>>> experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with many 
> >>>>> grads in
> >>>>> this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that program, 
> >>>>> which
> >>>>> is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have learned a
> >>>>> whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi, because that's
> >>>>> where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other breeds, but
> >>>>> they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
> >>>>> though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one; however, you
> >>>>> will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle users 
> >>>>> around
> >>>>> here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tami
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle so was
> >>>>>> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork into all the
> >>>>>> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the following 
> >>>>>> may. I
> >>>>>> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would have 
> >>>>>> been
> >>>>>> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been about 
> >>>>>> a year
> >>>>>> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself for 
> >>>>>> such long
> >>>>>> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority of 
> >>>>>> the needs
> >>>>>> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It is always
> >>>>>> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs to 
> >>>>>> get their
> >>>>>> feelings on the school as long as you remember that  everyone is
> >>>>>> different so their impressions will vary as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gary
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: Julie McGinnity<kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
> >>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> >>>>>> Users"
> >>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Miranda.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
> >>>>>>> one.  I took
> >>>>>>> the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a student and
> >>>>>>> was at the
> >>>>>>> time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere that could 
> >>>>>>> place
> >>>>>>> me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an interview
> >>>>>>> in a month and
> >>>>>>> a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
> >>>>>>> that.  I think
> >>>>>>> it usually takes longer though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
> >>>>>>> abnormal to
> >>>>>>> call and check on things.  It is also easy if you can email
> >>>>>>> someone in
> >>>>>>> admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--if it has
> >>>>>>> been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
> >>>>>>> with this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Good luck!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray<cindyray at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
> >>>>>>> all, I suspect
> >>>>>>>> that sometimes these things go slower because of vacations and
> >>>>>>> the like.
> >>>>>>>> Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
> >>>>>>> training dogs and the
> >>>>>>>> like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
> >>>>>>> some kind of
> >>>>>>>> time line.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>> Julie McG
> >>>>>>>   Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member
> >>>>>>> in Opera
> >>>>>>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> >>>>>>> Eyes for the Blind
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> >>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> >>>>>>> life."
> >>>>>>> John 3:16
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