[nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications

Thu Sep 8 19:33:36 UTC 2011

Poodles are mostly that fluff!  After you get that off you're left with a 
skinny thing that looks about half of what it did before!  I think those 
poodles would object to being called fake dogs though!  I mean really!  Who 
teaches other dogs fashion?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] bigger dogs was School Applications


> Yeah, I'd like a slightly taller dog in the future, although Mitzi is
> overall a very nice size. For some things, a couple of more inches would
> be more convenient. It's just that, well, how can such a relatively
> small guide dog be so impossible to fit in all those places guide dogs
> are supposed to? /lol/ Well, for a poodle, 55 lbs (give or take, for her
> adult weight), is about the same size as a 65 or 75 lb. real dog...
> Maybe poodles are really birds, all hollow bones and stuff? Who knows?
> I've just seen her side-by-side with dogs that appear to be smaller but
> that outweigh her by a huge percentage. Still! I have a lingering bus
> and train obsession re: fitting under the seat from when she was still
> not to her full growth but learning to ride the bus...
>
> Funny that Monty is a really great curler as opposed to your smaller
> lab. Boxers aren't exactly short on legs, either... But I think they
> don't have the long poodle body and neck. Hm.. There was a good-sized
> boxer at the park yesterday, but I didn't try to size him up for bus
> seat curling. So the mystery remains... My inner physics and math geek
> is very unsatisfied by it all, Since the numbers don't add up with
> Mitzi, nor do the laws of physics or even simple spatial mechanics seem
> to apply. /smile/
>
> Tami
>
> On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 10:55 -0500, Julie J. wrote:
>> Tami,
>>
>> It's interesting that Monty is much easier to fit into small spaces than
>> Belle ever was.  Belle is 24 or 25 inches at the shoulder and about 75
>> pounds.  Monty is like 27 inches tall and 85 pounds.  However he curls
>> up.  Belle is not an adept curler.
>>
>> I don't think I could work with one of the tiny guides that are so
>> popular these days.  Well tiny to me.  To everyone else they are normal
>> sized! *smile*  I really enjoy my big and tall dog.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 9/8/2011 10:45 AM, Tami Kinney wrote:
>> > Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
>> > interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the guide dog
>> > world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these days. In
>> > another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
>> > reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one through a
>> > program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching Guide Dog of
>> > the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from them just
>> > because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The people
>> > with a medical need for one will, naturally, take precedent. Still, 
>> > it's
>> > an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
>> > owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in place to 
>> > do
>> > that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another reason 
>> > I'm
>> > interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie guides. They
>> > are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm 
>> > mournfully
>> > emptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then of course, I am
>> > reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy poodle and
>> > can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
>> >
>> > I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
>> > around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
>> > months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
>> > understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally cracked me
>> > and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the breed, so 
>> > I
>> > got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
>> > against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
>> > spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and started
>> > to fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on about the size of
>> > his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
>> > doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do you put
>> > all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new doodle guide
>> > user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask her. I 
>> > can't
>> > figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
>> > She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in the 
>> > Honored
>> > Citizen (ha
>> > !) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the poodle
>> > leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m pretty sure the
>> > poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a bit and
>> > just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles down safely
>> > and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and ... I
>> > should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, but now
>> > when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered as a
>> > guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
>> >
>> > And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the yellow 
>> > ones,
>> > since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
>> > and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
>> > contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so numerous, and
>> > why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to be just
>> > so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
>> > taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long ago. I
>> > found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than Mitzi and
>> > about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some 'tude 
>> > out
>> > of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not to be 
>> > too
>> > strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and they work
>> > together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
>> > well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just totally
>> > laid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I wondered? Nah...
>> > When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to having such a
>> > lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
>> > with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
>> >
>> > Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
>> >
>> > Tami
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> >> Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they actually 
>> >> breed
>> >> them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I think that 
>> >> the
>> >> doodles are donated.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Tami Kinney"<tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> >> To:<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Gary,
>> >>>
>> >>> Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide Dogs of 
>> >>> the
>> >>> Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but they do 
>> >>> seem
>> >>> to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait for a
>> >>> poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy with 
>> >>> their
>> >>> experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with many grads 
>> >>> in
>> >>> this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that program, 
>> >>> which
>> >>> is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have learned a
>> >>> whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi, because that's
>> >>> where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other breeds, but
>> >>> they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
>> >>> though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one; however, you
>> >>> will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle users 
>> >>> around
>> >>> here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tami
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>> >>>> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle so was
>> >>>> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork into all the
>> >>>> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the following may. 
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would have 
>> >>>> been
>> >>>> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been about a 
>> >>>> year
>> >>>> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself for such 
>> >>>> long
>> >>>> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority of the 
>> >>>> needs
>> >>>> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It is always
>> >>>> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs to get 
>> >>>> their
>> >>>> feelings on the school as long as you remember that  everyone is
>> >>>> different so their impressions will vary as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gary
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: Julie McGinnity<kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> >>>> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> >>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> >>>> Users"
>> >>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Miranda.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
>> >>>>> one.  I took
>> >>>>> the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a student and
>> >>>>> was at the
>> >>>>> time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere that could 
>> >>>>> place
>> >>>>> me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an interview
>> >>>>> in a month and
>> >>>>> a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
>> >>>>> that.  I think
>> >>>>> it usually takes longer though.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
>> >>>>> abnormal to
>> >>>>> call and check on things.  It is also easy if you can email
>> >>>>> someone in
>> >>>>> admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--if it has
>> >>>>> been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
>> >>>>> with this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Good luck!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray<cindyray at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >>>>>> Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
>> >>>>> all, I suspect
>> >>>>>> that sometimes these things go slower because of vacations and
>> >>>>> the like.
>> >>>>>> Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
>> >>>>> training dogs and the
>> >>>>>> like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
>> >>>>> some kind of
>> >>>>>> time line.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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>> >>>>> -- 
>> >>>>> Julie McG
>> >>>>>   Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member
>> >>>>> in Opera
>> >>>>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>> >>>>> Eyes for the Blind
>> >>>>>
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