[nagdu] School Applications

Thu Sep 8 19:43:08 UTC 2011

I've heardd a lot of bad things about them but I've never been there.  I 
have a friend who went there because he lives near Palm Springs.  He said 
his experience was good but he got his next dog from Leader.  They also 
don't do classes in the summer because of the heat.  I thaught it would have 
been nice to go there because I've always been a Michigan Man and thaught a 
change of sceenery would have been nice!  Columbus!  Not much change!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications


> Maybe that's why I never ran into anybody from GDD until I started
> getting more connected with guide dog users around here. I think they
> are a pretty new school, so still small; probably they just don't have
> the resources for getting students to and from other parts of the
> country more established schools do? Just a guess. Here, it seems to be
> the same trainer for everybody, too, but that may just be the people I
> know who know each other from working in class with that trainer? They
> all talk about him like he's a friend of the family, and that goes for
> some of the puppy raisers, too. So I'm picking up a lot just out of the
> ether, which is kinda fun. Oddly, I know of almost know guide dog users
> from the GDB Boring campus here in their backyard. A couple of trainers
> have been around to chat with at some events, so that's fun. And I know
> there GDB grads around, I just don't run into them enough to get to know
> them. The grads from my own backyard I do know better are mostly on the
> NAGDU list and live way across the country. I know there are NFB of
> Oregon members with guide dogs from GDB from both campuses; I just don't
> see them around. It seems strange, but there it is.
>
> On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 12:44 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> Yah, but Pilot is getting more grads!  There are at least 2 of us in Ann
>> Arbor.  The other is a man with a golden.  When I looked into Guide Dogs 
>> of
>> the Desert, I got the impression they had poodles and doodles as well. 
>> They
>> were one of the schools who couldn't fly me out there.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>>
>>
>> > Yup. So I do like hearing from Pilot grads to learn more about their
>> > interactions with that program and the dogs they get. In the guide dog
>> > world at large, they seem to have a mixed reputation these days. In
>> > another 4 or 5 years? Who knows! Also, since I don't have a medical
>> > reason for a poodle, I may not even then be able to get one through a
>> > program, depending on supply and demand. I'm also watching Guide Dog of
>> > the Desert out here, since I guess you can get a poodle from them just
>> > because you want one, if you're willing for the extra wait. The people
>> > with a medical need for one will, naturally, take precedent. Still, 
>> > it's
>> > an interesting new avenue to consider... I honestly do want to
>> > owner-train again, but one needs to have a lot of factors in place to 
>> > do
>> > that... So I like watching options evolve. Of course, another reason 
>> > I'm
>> > interested in Pilot is because they do produce some dobie guides. They
>> > are my strong second choice, except at grooming time when I'm 
>> > mournfully
>> > emptying my wallet to pay the groomer. /smile/ Then of course, I am
>> > reunited with my freshly shaved and cleaned and very happy poodle and
>> > can't imagine why I would want anything but her! /smile/
>> >
>> > I did finally meet a young giant schnauzer, watching him follow Mitzi
>> > around -- after she poodle slapped him into submission. He was ten
>> > months, still not neutered, so I guess she wanted to be sure he
>> > understood the rules. He adored her for that, which totally cracked me
>> > and everybody else up. The owner was well informed about the breed, so 
>> > I
>> > got a lot of good information. Then I noted that the pup was leaning
>> > against me at a little above mid-thigh and still had another growth
>> > spurt or two in him before he was done with skeletal growth and started
>> > to fill out.,.. Oh, that's why everybody was going on about the size of
>> > his feet. Yikes! Well, some poodle guides get pretty big, as do some
>> > doodle guides... I love big, big dogs, frankly, but... Where do you put
>> > all that when you're trying to ride the bus? There's a new doodle guide
>> > user here with a big fella, so I need to break down and ask her. I 
>> > can't
>> > figure out what to do with my 55-pounder that's really satisfactory.
>> > She's all legs. So when the bus or train is crowded, even in the 
>> > Honored
>> > Citizen (ha
>> > !) section, I spend my ride time feeling troubled about all the poodle
>> > leg I have to keep up with to keep them safe, while I"m pretty sure the
>> > poodle with all the legs wishes I would just let her relax a bit and
>> > just stop fussing.  /lol/ Unfortunately, when she settles down safely
>> > and starts to relax, there go the legs! And then the nose and ... I
>> > should have got it figured out by now, I really should have, but now
>> > when I see a good example of any breed that might be considered as a
>> > guide dog, my fist thought is how to fit it on the bus! /lol/
>> >
>> > And I do enjoy watching the labbies at work. Especially the yellow 
>> > ones,
>> > since they're about the only dogs I can pick up manners and behaviors
>> > and movements of, as well as the golden eyes because of the
>> > contrast. /smile/ It's really easy to see why they are so numerous, and
>> > why the goldens are and the mix of the two. They always seem to be just
>> > so ... easy. Comparatively. /smile/ A yellow lab user who was quite
>> > taken with Mitzi, jokingly offered to trade dogs not too long ago. I
>> > found myself thinking that one over. The lab was younger than Mitzi and
>> > about a zillion times less busy. Sweet personality, still some 'tude 
>> > out
>> > of harness, playful. Certainly a good guide still learning not to be 
>> > too
>> > strong for the handler, but obviously by now pretty easy and they work
>> > together in an interesting way as a team that appears to work really
>> > well. But compared to my adored and adorable poodle guide, just totally
>> > laid back. Would I like a taste of the quiet life, I wondered? Nah...
>> > When I'm ready for the quiet life, then I look forward to having such a
>> > lab or that mellow -- in my view -- lab type. But for now, I'll stick
>> > with the wild and crazy poodle life. /smile/
>> >
>> > Besides, the poodle would drive my friend crazy in no time. Teehee.
>> >
>> > Tami
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> >> Of course, if you want a poodle Pilot is the place sence they actually
>> >> breed
>> >> them there instead of waiting for donations.  However, I think that 
>> >> the
>> >> doodles are donated.
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> >> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:28 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Gary,
>> >> >
>> >> > Turns out there are a bunch of people with dogs from Guide Dogs of 
>> >> > the
>> >> > Desert here in Oregon. Not all are poodles or doodles, but they do 
>> >> > seem
>> >> > to have some good poodle lines these days. Still a long wait for a
>> >> > poodle, but the handlers with GDD dogs all seem really happy with 
>> >> > their
>> >> > experience. And with the trainer that seems to work with many grads 
>> >> > in
>> >> > this area. So it's fun getting to learn more about that program, 
>> >> > which
>> >> > is pretty small still. Except for GDB, it seems like I have learned 
>> >> > a
>> >> > whole lot about the programs east of the Mississippi, because that's
>> >> > where so many of the guide dog users I know are from. Huh.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, I don't know what the wait for GDD is with other breeds, but
>> >> > they still say to plan for about a year for a poodle. Apparently,
>> >> > though, you don't *have* to have a medical need for one; however, 
>> >> > you
>> >> > will have to wait longer, This from the poodle and doodle users 
>> >> > around
>> >> > here. Anyway, that's the scoop.
>> >> >
>> >> > Tami
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 12:38 -0700, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Meranda applied at 3 schools. I was looking for a poodle so was
>> >> >> limited in which schools could help. I got my paperwork into all 
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> schools in August or september and got Bogart in the following may. 
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> also had heard back from guide dogs of the desert and would have 
>> >> >> been
>> >> >> accepted into a fall class with them which would have been about a
>> >> >> year
>> >> >> waiting. When applying for a poodle I had prepared myself for such
>> >> >> long
>> >> >> waits so was happy with how quick it was.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My suggestion is to look at which schools meet the majority of the
>> >> >> needs
>> >> >> you have and what you find important and apply to them. It is 
>> >> >> always
>> >> >> good, if possible, to talk to grads from different programs to get
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> feelings on the school as long as you remember that  everyone is
>> >> >> different so their impressions will vary as well.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gary
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> >> >> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:57 pm
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Applications
>> >> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> >> >> Users"
>> >> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi Miranda.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > When I was applying to schools, I applied to more than
>> >> >> > one.  I took
>> >> >> > the one that accepted me the quickest.  I am a student and
>> >> >> > was at the
>> >> >> > time I went to get a guide dog, so I needed somewhere that could
>> >> >> > place
>> >> >> > me in the Summer.  It all depends.  I got an interview
>> >> >> > in a month and
>> >> >> > a half or so, and then I went to  class 2 months after
>> >> >> > that.  I think
>> >> >> > it usually takes longer though.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I did call to check on my application, so I know it's not
>> >> >> > abnormal to
>> >> >> > call and check on things.  It is also easy if you can email
>> >> >> > someone in
>> >> >> > admissions to ask them the status of your home interview--if it 
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > been planned yet...  I don't there would be anything wrong
>> >> >> > with this.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Good luck!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 9/5/11, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > > Well, all I can say is if they don't, call again. First of
>> >> >> > all, I suspect
>> >> >> > > that sometimes these things go slower because of vacations and
>> >> >> > the like.
>> >> >> > > Sometimes they send trainers and the trainers are also
>> >> >> > training dogs and the
>> >> >> > > like. I think it would nbe helpful if they would let us know
>> >> >> > some kind of
>> >> >> > > time line.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
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