[nagdu] some advice

Sat Sep 10 01:53:51 UTC 2011

Hi Chantel.

 I had to deal with this on a smaller scale when I first got my dog.
One of my best friends did not want me to bring the dog into my house.
 She was dead set on me not using the dog in the house before I even
got the dog.  When I did get Brie, we sort of compromised.  I guess
she realized that Brie was not going to hurt anyone in the house or
damage the fernature or whatever, so she was ok with me bringing her
as long as Brie remained in harness the whole time.

Now you can't do that if you actually live there, so yeah, moving
might be the best thing for you.Also, something to consider: When you
get your dog, you will go through some version of the home interview.
The school will want to know what kind of home environment you live
in, and they will assess whether or not this environment will be good
for the dog.  First of all, did you explain this to your friend?  I
believe you can make sure to get a dog that is very gentle with
children or a dog that is used to them.  I guess you'll also have to
think of this if you move, when you consider where you move.

Hope this helps.

On 9/9/11, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
> I am of the opinion these days that some parents don't train the kids half
> as well as the dogs are trained!  When I grew up, I learned to respect dogs.
> I learned not to hurt them or mess with there food.  If I did that, well, I
> might get bitten.  If I did, it was almost always my fault.  Lately however,
> if anything can bite nobody wants it or the responsibility of it.  Perfect
> example is the humane society.  Those people purposely annoy dogs to see if
> they'll bite!  If they do then its off to be euthanized.  For some of those
> dogs they would just need to make sure they went to folks who would respect
> them and work with them.  I guess they don't want to get sued or anything
> because some stupid kid anoys the dog to make it bite!  I'm not saying that
> all of those humane society dogs can be trained or aught to be with people
> but I have observed that most probblems that those dogs have are
> psychological and caused by us humans who are supposed to be there frinds
> and protectors.  It seems to me to be unfair that if a kid pokes, hits or
> steals a dogs food he usually gets off the hook and if the dog defends
> himself against it well he gets scrapped!  I'll jump off the soap box for
> now but the point is that kids should be taught to respect dogs and dogs
> should be taught to respect us.  It isn't that difficault!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>
>
> Shannon,
> Sean came to visit me with Archie not too long ago and they saw first-hand
> what living with a guide dog would be like.
> They told me every time Archie barked it would scare Lola my friend's
> grandchild.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:23 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>
> Have they had bad experiences with other people's guide dogs? I know some
> people are just generally worried about these things, but I'm wondering why
> they're so convinced this will happen.
>
> I hope you're able to find a place to live so that you can have your dog. I
> wish you the best of luck.
>
> Shannon and Caroline
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> On Sep 9, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>
>> Shannon,
>> I have tried to convince the people here that the dog wouldn't snap at
> their
>> child but it's not working. They're not saying I can't have a guide dog,
>> they just don't want me living here with one.
>> Moving, unfortunately, is something that I might have to do in this case.
>>
>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>
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>>
>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>
>> aim: scholarmistress
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 6:32 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>
>> People asking questions doesn't mean they don't want a dog. Not everyone
>> knows everything for certain without seeking advice from others. Often,
> it's
>> helpful to gain insight from other people who may have been in a similar
>> situation.
>>
>> Chantal, have you talked to those you live with, explaining to them
> exactly
>> why you think a dog is the right choice? If so, do they seem at all
>> receptive to the idea? I know, when i got my first dog, I was living at
> home
>> with my parents. My dad was a huge dog lover, but my mom, not so much. So,
>> it took some convincing. Once she met my dog, and saw that there weren't
> any
>> serious problems, she got used to the idea.
>>
>> If people are totally unreceptive to the idea of a dog in the house, how
>> easy would it be for you to move? Moving is not something to be done
>> lightly. It takes a lot of time and money, plus the resources to keep
>> yourself afloat once you've moved. Is this something that is possible for
>> you to do?
>>
>> I hope you can work things out. Don't stop asking questions. The majority
> of
>> people on this list are happy to help you without being judgmental.
>>
>> Shannon and Caroline
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>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Nope, you shouldn't. In fact, you shouldn't get a dog at all. ust my
>>> opinion. Now, I'll tell you why.
>>>
>>> First, your grandmother has every right to refuse access to any animal
>>> in her house while you're still living with her. So you won't be able
>>> to impose your will on them. I guess you could try explaining to them
>>> the use that a dog would be to you and that they are highly trained
>>> not to be aggressive and to be calm and all that, but I doubt it would
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Second point: You don't want a dog. If you did, you wouldn't be
>>> getting on this list asking a bunch of people you don't know for
>>> advice. If you want a dog bad enough, you would not deal with someone
>>> else imposing their will on you. Instead, you would save up the money,
>>> become independent, establish alternate living arrangements and then
>>> pursue getting a dog. The fact that you have to ask on this list means
>>> that you aren't certain about wanting a dog. A dog is a huge
>>> responsibility but it's one that I wouldn't trade for anything. It's
>>> up to you to do the research, however, to make absolutely certain that
>>> this is what you want to do if you want to do it. A dog is a living,
>>> breathing animal. A dog is not a pet, a stuffed animal or a lovey
>>> cuddly object that you can dress up in doll's clothes.
>>>
>>> Thanks, and I hope I didn't offend anyone too badly with my bluntness.
>>>
>>> Nimer J
>>>
>>> On 09.09.2011, Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I need some advice. I am not sure what to do here. I am trying to
>> convince
>>>> my friend that I am staying with her grandchild won't get hurt by my
>> future
>>>> guide dog, but she and her kids have voted against me having one her at
>> this
>>>> house.
>>>>
>>>> Should I consider moving to another area then get a dog? Please help.
>>>>
>>>> Chantel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
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>>>>
>>>> aim: scholarmistress
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