[nagdu] barking was some advice

Tue Sep 13 15:18:42 UTC 2011

Ben almost never barks anymore.  He used to give a couple barks when Echo
was doing her ferocious door-barking, but then he decided she could do all
the bark work and he'd do the running to the door part.  Now neither of
them barks.  Although Ben does bark a lot in his sleep.  He's a whole
other dog in his dreams.  I'd give money to know what his dreams are.
Tracy

> Fisher barks when our other dog is barking, and she barks ad nauseum. LOL.
> Often Fisher doesn't start until Libby is well into it. He does sometimes
> bark at other dogs when he is getting all lathered up for the play time,
> and this is not appropriate, but mostly he has figured out when it is and
> when it is not appropriate to bark.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>
>> I'm of the opinion that dogs are dogs and should be allowed to bark in
>> appropriate settings and in reasonable amounts.  Monty barks when anyone
>> enters the yard but is expected to cease when I ask.  He is also allowed
>> to bark pretty much at will in the back yard.  If I find it annoying I
>> get him to quit.  I know some guide dogs never bark for any reason in
>> any situation.  I can't imagine having a dog that didn't bark.  It's a
>> totally foreign concept to me. *smile*
>>
>> Monty has never once barked while in harness since he has been fully
>> trained.  I didn't specifically teach him this, it just developed with
>> his settling into a responsible guide dog.  I have been asked on
>> numerous occasions while I'm out and about if he ever barks.  I try not
>> to laugh.  If I know the person well I will usually invite them to my
>> home so they can find out for themselves.
>>
>> For Monty work is work and play is play.  He does both with 110% effort!
>> *smile*
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/2011 9:47 AM, Dan Weiner wrote:
>>> Well, oh my God, adog barking, never heard of such a thing--smile.
>>>
>>> Well, if you need to live with them for whatever reason deal with it as
>>> best
>>> you can but if it were me and I could, I'd get out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Chantel Cuddemi
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:02 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>> I actually changed her diaper once with some verbal prompting since I
>>> hadn't
>>> done it before. The truth is, after Sean and Archie came to visit me
>>> just a
>>> few weeks ago, they told me afterwords that because of how Archie
>>> barked and
>>> scared Lola and because of the shedding, they don't want me living here
>>> with
>>> a guide dog.
>>> Sean, I'm sorry for bringing this up on list but I had to tell the
>>> others
>>> what was happening.
>>> Chantel.
>>>
>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
>>>
>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>
>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:34 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>> Because babies move around and so do dogs and you can't always predict
>>> what
>>> they will do.
>>> The baby is her responsibility yes, but it sounds like she's letting
>>> you
>>> live there. And let's say your dog pees on the floor. While she should
>>> tell
>>> you to get it cleaned up, let's say your in the shower. She's going to
>>> clean
>>> up the mess so baby won't get in it. It's just what we moms do.
>>> Actually, the model of "Your responsibility and my responsibility" is
>>> the
>>> problem. Everybody lives in the house, everybody takes care of each
>>> other.
>>> Maybe that's the problem? I'd hope that if the baby needed to be held
>>> or fed
>>> or a diaper change, you'd do that if mama was in the middle of
>>> something.
>>> If not, well, the dog is not really the issue here.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:42 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>> Well, the baby is her responsibility, and how would the baby get hurt.
>>> Anyway, I think that's a good decision on your part.
>>> On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lisa,
>>>> There is a baby in the house who is three months old.
>>>> She's going to start crawling soon and my friend doesn't want her to
>>>> get hurt. Plus, they don't want to deal with the shedding.
>>>> I've tried to explain that the dog would be my responsibility and that
>>>> I'd make sure nothing happened to the baby but I am not going to
>>>> bother trying anymore. She knows where I stand I know where she stnds
>>>> so
>>> I'll move.
>>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
>>>>
>>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>>
>>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Lisa belville
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:07 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>>
>>>> Hi, chantel.
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like a no win situation for you and the future dog.  It
>>>> sounds like they're not open to learning about dogs, let alone coming
>>>> to a compromise, so yes, as everyone else has said, it's time to find
>>>> another place to live and try to move on.  If this person is a good
>>>> friend,
>>> forcing
>>>> the issue might strain the situation further.
>>>>
>>>> How old are the "kids" who also voted to not have the dog in their
>>>> house?
>>>> Are these adult children with children of their own who will be at the
>>> house
>>>> with you and your dog or are they minor children?  I guess this is
>>>> just a difference in parenting, but I wouldn't have been given the
>>>> option to have someone who was already living with us voted out of the
>>>> house because I didn't like something.  It sounds like your friend is
>>>> a bit apprehensive, and her children are just adding to the fears by
>>>> putting pressure on her about the thought of a nasty vicious dog in
>>>> her house.  And yes, that last sentence was sarcasm.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the schools are happy to educate friends and family about a
>>>> dog,
>>> but
>>>> even in the best of circumstances, coming home with a new dog is
>>>> stressful enough without having to worry about how others in the house
>>>> will react to the dog.  And then there's the whole aspect of a new dog
>>>> learning the
>>> rules
>>>> with a new handler, and this can sometimes give people on the outside
>>>> the wrong ideas about how guide dogs should behave.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you can find a living situation that's more receptive to life
>>>> with
>>> a
>>>> dog.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems I have 3 personalities. One that has a plan, one that
>>>> completely screws up the plan, and one that says "what the hell
>>>> happened to the
>>> plan?"
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chantel Cuddemi"<jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:34 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] some advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I need some advice. I am not sure what to do here. I am trying to
>>> convince
>>>>> my friend that I am staying with her grandchild won't get hurt by my
>>>>> future guide dog, but she and her kids have voted against me having
>>>>> one her at this house.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I consider moving to another area then get a dog? Please help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chantel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>>>>
>>>>>
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