[nagdu] some advice

Tue Sep 13 16:04:51 UTC 2011

Don't say that Dan, Kids are wonderful! The most important job you will ever 
have when they say I love you mom or I love you dad, that little tear in 
your eye comes.

You dog is your dog, you kids are your kids.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice

> I tell you my friend, the more you describe what it's like to be a Mom the
> more I'm getting convinced I don't want kids.
>
> Sorry about Mellie's cold.
>
> Now, I suppose it's a question of people being able to understand and
> respect other peoples' needs, at this point, not having been around kids 
> for
> quite some time, I find myself being annoyed every time I'm around one
> because I'm just not used to it.
> But, if I'm at my brother's house, for example, I realize it's his family
> and I deal with it as best I can just secretly congratulating myself on
> being able to go home with the dog and without the kids--smile
>
>
> Dan the man, Carter the nut
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [ ] On Behalf Of Pickrell,
> Rebecca M (TASC)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:07 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>
> To explain the other side a bit.
> My preschooler daughter loves dogs. So do I.  She also has a cold right 
> now.
> A few things happen when she has a cold. The first is that she cries more,
> things that normally don't upset her do.  So I spend a lot of time calming
> her down.
> Second, she gets into coughing fits that sometimes make her throw up. 
> She's
> getting better about getting to the potty to throw up, but she doesn't
> always make it.
>
> Saturday night, she didn't sleep well.  I was okay with that as I was very
> excited about the events of the past day and had trouble settling down
> myself.
> Sunday night, she threw up at like 1 in the morning after a coughing fit,
> one that I had to listen to and figure out if I could stop it or if this 
> one
> just had to run its course. So, she throws up, I put her in the tub while
> husband cleans the floor. I make the mistake of letting her have her bath
> toys and bubbles. She becomes obsessed with "washing ducky" a task that 
> will
> *never* end. I finally convince her to get out of the tub by telling her
> I've never seen tv at two in the morning and wouldn't it be fun to go see
> what's on.  The tv time was needed because she needed a nebulizer 
> treatment,
> a treatment that takes a good 20 minutes.  The machine is very loud, so I
> sit with her partly to provide comfort, partly to monitor that the little
> monster keeps the mask over her face and stays still.  She was very tired 
> so
> while I was trying to help her get dressed after her bath, she cried and
> told me she was cold and wasn't very interested in helping the process go
> smoothly.
> When she gets colds, she needs at least two 20 treatments a day. She also
> usually gets an ear infection which means she's in pain.  I've been told 
> by
> several nurses that the hours between midnight and 4 in the morning are 
> the
> worst for ill people, they feel pain more and it takes more to comfort 
> them.
>
> So, I finally get my daughter and myself back to bed after giving her some
> milk. Needless to say, I barely functioned yesterday.
> Last night was a repeat version of Sunday night, though I was able to 
> speed
> up the bath process.
>
>
> I say all this because if somebody asked me today "Can I get a guide dog 
> and
> live with you" I'd spaz.  I just don't have it in me now.  The hours 
> between
> five and eight a.m. were the best sleep we had. A dog barking at that time
> would have sent me over the edge. A mom doesn't get to go home at the end 
> of
> the day or night and the past two nights have been long ones at my house.
>
> Sounds like there are other issues then just the dog, but I say al this to
> explain that I love dogs, my daughter would love it if a dog came to live
> with us, and especially if the dog got to go hang out with us when we went
> out, but as the mom, I say no
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Dan Weiner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:48 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>
> Well, oh my God, adog barking, never heard of such a thing--smile.
>
> Well, if you need to live with them for whatever reason deal with it as 
> best
> you can but if it were me and I could, I'd get out.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Chantel Cuddemi
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:02 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>
> I actually changed her diaper once with some verbal prompting since I 
> hadn't
> done it before. The truth is, after Sean and Archie came to visit me just 
> a
> few weeks ago, they told me afterwords that because of how Archie barked 
> and
> scared Lola and because of the shedding, they don't want me living here 
> with
> a guide dog.
> Sean, I'm sorry for bringing this up on list but I had to tell the others
> what was happening.
> Chantel.
>
> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>
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>
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>
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>
> aim: scholarmistress
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:34 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>
> Because babies move around and so do dogs and you can't always predict 
> what
> they will do.
> The baby is her responsibility yes, but it sounds like she's letting you
> live there. And let's say your dog pees on the floor. While she should 
> tell
> you to get it cleaned up, let's say your in the shower. She's going to 
> clean
> up the mess so baby won't get in it. It's just what we moms do.
> Actually, the model of "Your responsibility and my responsibility" is the
> problem. Everybody lives in the house, everybody takes care of each other.
> Maybe that's the problem? I'd hope that if the baby needed to be held or 
> fed
> or a diaper change, you'd do that if mama was in the middle of something.
> If not, well, the dog is not really the issue here.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:42 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>
> Well, the baby is her responsibility, and how would the baby get hurt.
> Anyway, I think that's a good decision on your part.
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>
> > Lisa,
> > There is a baby in the house who is three months old.
> > She's going to start crawling soon and my friend doesn't want her to
> > get hurt. Plus, they don't want to deal with the shedding.
> > I've tried to explain that the dog would be my responsibility and that
> > I'd make sure nothing happened to the baby but I am not going to
> > bother trying anymore. She knows where I stand I know where she stnds
> > so
> I'll move.
> >
> > Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >
> > facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >
> > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
> >
> > skype: leogirl48
> >
> > msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >
> > aim: scholarmistress
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Lisa belville
> > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:07 AM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> >
> > Hi, chantel.
> >
> > This sounds like a no win situation for you and the future dog.  It
> > sounds like they're not open to learning about dogs, let alone coming
> > to a compromise, so yes, as everyone else has said, it's time to find
> > another place to live and try to move on.  If this person is a good
> > friend,
> forcing
> > the issue might strain the situation further.
> >
> > How old are the "kids" who also voted to not have the dog in their 
> > house?
> > Are these adult children with children of their own who will be at the
> house
> >
> > with you and your dog or are they minor children?  I guess this is
> > just a difference in parenting, but I wouldn't have been given the
> > option to have someone who was already living with us voted out of the
> > house because I didn't like something.  It sounds like your friend is
> > a bit apprehensive, and her children are just adding to the fears by
> > putting pressure on her about the thought of a nasty vicious dog in
> > her house.  And yes, that last sentence was sarcasm.
> >
> > Most of the schools are happy to educate friends and family about a
> > dog,
> but
> >
> > even in the best of circumstances, coming home with a new dog is
> > stressful enough without having to worry about how others in the house
> > will react to the dog.  And then there's the whole aspect of a new dog
> > learning the
> rules
> > with a new handler, and this can sometimes give people on the outside
> > the wrong ideas about how guide dogs should behave.
> >
> > I hope you can find a living situation that's more receptive to life
> > with
> a
> > dog.
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems I have 3 personalities. One that has a plan, one that
> > completely screws up the plan, and one that says "what the hell
> > happened to the
> plan?"
> > Lisa Belville
> > missktlab1217 at frontier.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:34 PM
> > Subject: [nagdu] some advice
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I need some advice. I am not sure what to do here. I am trying to
> convince
> >> my friend that I am staying with her grandchild won't get hurt by my
> >> future guide dog, but she and her kids have voted against me having
> >> one her at this house.
> >>
> >> Should I consider moving to another area then get a dog? Please help.
> >>
> >> Chantel.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> skype: leogirl48
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> aim: scholarmistress
> >>
> >>
> >>
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