[nagdu] Sport vs standard harness

[Margo and Arrow]

Wht is the difference between the martingale standard and sport martingale?

Margo and Arrow
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From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Sport vs standard harness


> They will make offset handles, and the martingale is an integral part of 
> the sport and Laveau designs. Also, the standard harness comes with a 
> martingale standard.
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> Buddy "I don't work for these guys" Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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> On Sep 23, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>
>> Can you get a martingale strap?
>>
>> also, wonder if they will make offset harnesses.
>>
>> margo and Arrow
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
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>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Sport vs standard harness
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>>
>>> Hey Tracy,
>>>
>>> You're right: the total freedom of movement in the sport style harness 
>>> handle does require some care, as you can, if not careful, over walk 
>>> your dog. It seems unlikely that the handle would flip up in the way you 
>>> indicate, although I suppose that is a possibility, albeit a slim one. 
>>> However, the handle does move far enough that it could literally go up 
>>> over your dog's nose, but the backward pressure as your dog moves and as 
>>> you move would probably preclude this. Though it would be very possible 
>>> to over walk if you're not careful. The advantage is that you can make 
>>> extremely tight turns.
>>>
>>> It's not on the sight, but order the sport harness, and in the comments, 
>>> ask Bob to make you the Laveau style. This is a sport style with 
>>> stabilizer loops. I have one for Leno and absolutely love it. The loops 
>>> keep the handle at  a natural angle, the handle can't go up over your 
>>> dog's head, but you still feel all the movement through the shoulders 
>>> the way the straps are configured. Truly, I think the Laveau style gives 
>>> the best of both styles. It definitely has a different feel from the 
>>> standard American harness as you'd get from school. You really feel, not 
>>> only the pull into the front of the harness, but also the shoulder 
>>> movement to some extent. I quite like it.
>>>
>>> To tell you the truth, the only real reason I wanted another harness was 
>>> the removable handle. It's the one feature of Seeing Eye's harnesses 
>>> that I wish we had but don't. I don't have any issue with their name on 
>>> the back strap or anything of that nature. So, yes, the harness with 
>>> loops still has a removable handle. Just thread the handle through the 
>>> loops, then snap it together. The plastic backpack type fasteners that 
>>> Bob and Rox'e use are surprisingly sturdy; I think you'd have to try 
>>> pretty hard to damage one. Now having said that, beyond the removable 
>>> handle, I really enjoy using my Paw Power harness. It's lightweight, 
>>> gives great feedback, and looks sharp. Definitely count me as satisfied. 
>>> And I got mine with all the options: reflective tape and padding, I 
>>> mean. Bob assures me the reflective tape is sewn on, not glued, so it 
>>> will hold up just fine in the laundry.
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about getting a Pawpower harness.  It would be nice to 
>>>> have
>>>> something I can throw in the wash, especially with winter crud coming
>>>> along.  I'd also like something where I could detach the handle.
>>>> What I'm not sure about is which to get, sport or standard.  I need to 
>>>> be
>>>> able to tell instantly when Ben is stopping for traffic or dodging a
>>>> pedestrian.
>>>> I'm a little worried that, with the sport, the handle might flip over 
>>>> his
>>>> head.  I'm a little worried that, with the standard, it would be harder 
>>>> to
>>>> take the handle off and on because of the stabilizer loops.
>>>> What do those of you with Pawpower harnesses have to say?
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
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