[nagdu] Churches

Thu Apr 5 02:15:37 UTC 2012

As someone going into pastoral ministry myself, and having taught Sunday 
school, I find this offencive! RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brenda" <bjnite at windstream.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches


> True, but perhaps educating people in the AG denomination might get them 
> to correct these *idiots.*
>
> As for Southern Baptists - The pastor of the church I once attended told 
> the head of the Sunday School department that he did not want me to teach 
> Sunday School because I was legally blind.  I think churches are the last 
> place people feel comfortable being their true discriminatory selves 
> because they can.  They have to play nice everywhere else.  I think it 
> would really be fun to have a visitation team of cane and guide dog users 
> to attend some of the unaccepting churches.
> Brenda
>
>
>
>
> On 4/4/2012 9:57 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>> All governing agencies aren't equal. A Catholic Diocese would be, or even 
>> talking to a priest; not sure how Assemblies of God would work.
>>
>> CL
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>
>>> That is just plain disgusting.  Too bad a bunch of guide dog users in 
>>> the area couldn't show up with a few people with cameras for the media. 
>>> I don't like to cut down churches, but this behavior is outrageous. 
>>> Could you contact the governing agency of the denomination and let them 
>>> know this is going on?
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> On 4/4/2012 7:49 PM, Bertha Avila Guerrero wrote:
>>>> Assemblies of God. But I called a non-denominational and even a 
>>>> catholic
>>>> church even though I am not Catholic because I really wanted for us to
>>>> attend an Easter Service.
>>>>
>>>> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
>>>> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Alan Wheeler
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:39 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>>>>
>>>> What denomination church are you looking for? I'm sorry, but ADA or 
>>>> not,
>>>> considering the mission/purpose of the church, not accepting you 
>>>> because of
>>>> your guide dog is just flat wrong, no matter the denomination.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Bertha Avila Guerrero
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:34 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU NFB
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Churches
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> I know churches are the only places that can deny us access. I don't
>>>> understand this since they have to follow ADA regulations for building
>>>> accessibility.
>>>> Anyway, I have been in Colorado a year and a half and have not yet 
>>>> found a
>>>> home church. This has been difficult for me because I am used to be 
>>>> active
>>>> in church. Well I decided Godiva and I needed to find an Easter service 
>>>> and
>>>> the two churches I called were friendly enough and would not come out 
>>>> and
>>>> say we would be denied access.
>>>> But one told me we would have to sit in the foyer and the security 
>>>> guard
>>>> would decide if we would be allowed in the sanctuary. Another church 
>>>> told me
>>>> we would have to sit in the back pew. Needless to say I am very
>>>> disappointed, and my heart hurts . I had no trouble attending church in
>>>> Texas when I go back.
>>>>
>>>> Well I guess we won't be attending an Easter service.
>>>>
>>>> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
>>>> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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