[nagdu] Churches

Thu Apr 5 05:27:15 UTC 2012

Oh how aweful...  I haven't had any problems taking Brie to various
churches around the St. Louis area.  I go to a Southern Baptist
church, and everyone is super welcoming  to us.  The church choir even
bought her a bed to keep in the choir room.  Brie comes on stage with
me when I sing with the choir, and no one has ever said a word against
us being there.  Perhaps finding a bigger church in the area might
help.  In a bigger church, there is more of a chance that they have
dealt with people with disabilities before who needed to be
accomidated.  Dumb logic, maybe, but it's the best I've got.

On 4/4/12, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
> At least with the Catholics, they try to make rules good or bad that apply
> in most if not all of there churches.  I imagine that some of the smaller
> churches can make there own rules.  I'm not picking on anyone but that seems
> to be the way it is!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>
>
>> All governing agencies aren't equal. A Catholic Diocese would be, or even
>> talking to a priest; not sure how Assemblies of God would work.
>>
>> CL
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>
>>> That is just plain disgusting.  Too bad a bunch of guide dog users in the
>>>
>>> area couldn't show up with a few people with cameras for the media.  I
>>> don't like to cut down churches, but this behavior is outrageous.  Could
>>> you contact the governing agency of the denomination and let them know
>>> this is going on?
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> On 4/4/2012 7:49 PM, Bertha Avila Guerrero wrote:
>>>> Assemblies of God. But I called a non-denominational and even a catholic
>>>> church even though I am not Catholic because I really wanted for us to
>>>> attend an Easter Service.
>>>>
>>>> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
>>>> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Alan Wheeler
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:39 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>>>>
>>>> What denomination church are you looking for? I'm sorry, but ADA or not,
>>>> considering the mission/purpose of the church, not accepting you because
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>> your guide dog is just flat wrong, no matter the denomination.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Bertha Avila Guerrero
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:34 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU NFB
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Churches
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> I know churches are the only places that can deny us access. I don't
>>>> understand this since they have to follow ADA regulations for building
>>>> accessibility.
>>>> Anyway, I have been in Colorado a year and a half and have not yet found
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>> home church. This has been difficult for me because I am used to be
>>>> active
>>>> in church. Well I decided Godiva and I needed to find an Easter service
>>>> and
>>>> the two churches I called were friendly enough and would not come out
>>>> and
>>>> say we would be denied access.
>>>> But one told me we would have to sit in the foyer and the security guard
>>>> would decide if we would be allowed in the sanctuary. Another church
>>>> told me
>>>> we would have to sit in the back pew. Needless to say I am very
>>>> disappointed, and my heart hurts . I had no trouble attending church in
>>>> Texas when I go back.
>>>>
>>>> Well I guess we won't be attending an Easter service.
>>>>
>>>> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
>>>> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Julie McG
 Lindbergh High School class of 2009, National Federation of the Blind
of Missouri recording secretary,
and proud graduate of Guiding Eyes for the Blind

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