[nagdu] another what would you do question

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Mon Apr 9 15:00:28 UTC 2012


When you go around this dog, just keep a little distance between you and 
this other.  Lte the other dog do what it does and control yours!  They'll 
get called out!  We can only control our dogs!  I do this and if someone 
else can't, well its not my probblem!  ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question


>I don't know for sure if the dog has bitten someone.  I only know what 
>people have told me.  I do know the person who is supposed to have been 
>bitten and I intend on asking about it when I get the opportunity.
>
> I don't want to accuse anyone of anything that I don't know for certain. 
> After all I don't know this person and have never met either him or the 
> dog.  On the other hand what people are saying is quite serious.  I want 
> to plan ahead and prevent any problems from occurring if that is possible. 
> If something does happen I will most certainly not sweep it under the rug.
>
> Julie
>
> On 4/9/2012 9:30 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>> Biting people?!  This dog has bitten people, and no one's filed charges,
>> or called Animal Control?  And what is this guy thinking, working a dog
>> that bites people?  That just seems crazy.  Are you sure it's that bad?
>> Tracy
>>
>>> I don't know what the dog does, only what others have told me.  But
>>> biting people does scare me, quite a lot.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2012 8:54 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>> I have to ask, what does this dog do and why does it scare you?
>>>> Kujo levels of aggression??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:47 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>>>>
>>>> Jenine,
>>>>
>>>> thank you.  This is sorta what I was coming to, once I got over the
>>>> initial panic. I'll have to ask around to get contact info for the
>>>> gentleman.  We have never met.
>>>>
>>>> I did ask the people I talked to about what exactly the dog does.  I 
>>>> got
>>>> very specific answers that honestly scare me.
>>>>
>>>> Then this afternoon I realized that my transportation master plan is an
>>>> epic fail for entirely other reasons.  So I may very well have to find
>>>> other transportation to this event, not because of the dog but because 
>>>> I
>>>> can't be in two places at once.  Honestly I need to be more diligent
>>>> about putting things in the calendar. *sigh*
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the feedback.  It truly does help.
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 11:47 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think my questions would include, to those trusted sources first:
>>>>>
>>>>> Describe why you feel this dog is aggressive, what kinds of situations
>>>>> have
>>>>> you seen in which this dog exhibited aggressive behavior?
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I'd  contact the person and just flat out ask, letting him know
>>>>> that
>>>>> you've heard reports that his dog has some issues with either
>>>>> aggression, or
>>>>> at the very least, making noise around other dogs, which is sometimes
>>>>> mistaken for aggression. I'd let him know that you are concerned about
>>>>> riding in a closed vehicle with this dog and just want to know where
>>>>> things
>>>>> stand, not to criticize him or the dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that's the fair way to handle it but whatever way you choose,
>>>>> talking to the handler is going to have to be one of those necessary
>>>>> evils.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>> jeninems at wowway.com
>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Julie J.
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:28 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have another what would you do in this situation question.  I'm 
>>>>> going
>>>>> to
>>>>> apologize in advance because my information is going to seem cryptic.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am attending an event with other blind people and some guide dogs. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> riding to this event in a van with one of the other guide dogs.  I am
>>>>> planning on taking Monty.  I have heard from more than one trusted
>>>>> source that the other guide dog is aggressive.   I do not know the
>>>>> other
>>>>> guide dog handler at all.  I do not know what program the dog is from.
>>>>> Not going to this event is not an option.  getting there another way 
>>>>> is
>>>>> an
>>>>> extremely remote option that I'm looking into.  Even if I do find 
>>>>> other
>>>>> transportation I will be in a small hotel for the weekend where this
>>>>> other
>>>>> guide dog will also be.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do I do?  I've thought about leaving Monty, but there won't be
>>>>> anyone available to care for him.  I'd have to leave him at the dog
>>>>> sitter's
>>>>> place.  It also feels like leaving Monty is allowing the other person
>>>>> to not
>>>>> take responsibility for his dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there some obvious solution that I'm overlooking? I know you guys
>>>>> are
>>>>> awesome and will have great ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
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