[nagdu] another what would you do question

Mark J. Cadigan kramc11 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 9 15:11:09 UTC 2012 

This is true, dogs should not act like that, however, there are always 
reasons for things. Sometimes it's the handler, sometimes the dog, sometimes 
the dog had pore training, or a dog that should never have been placed 
becomes a guide dog. I am kind of interested in learning the back story on 
this issue.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question


> Mark, that doesn't really matter.  The dog should simply not be allowed to 
> do that!  If he has a tendency to be aggressive, his partner should iether 
> stop him from doing that or go back to the school and learn how or get 
> another dog.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question
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>
>> The other part of the question is what happened to the dog to make it act 
>> in such an aggressive manner.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>>
>>
>>> Biting people?!  This dog has bitten people, and no one's filed charges,
>>> or called Animal Control?  And what is this guy thinking, working a dog
>>> that bites people?  That just seems crazy.  Are you sure it's that bad?
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> I don't know what the dog does, only what others have told me.  But
>>>> biting people does scare me, quite a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/9/2012 8:54 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>> I have to ask, what does this dog do and why does it scare you?
>>>>> Kujo levels of aggression??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:47 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenine,
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you.  This is sorta what I was coming to, once I got over the
>>>>> initial panic. I'll have to ask around to get contact info for the
>>>>> gentleman.  We have never met.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did ask the people I talked to about what exactly the dog does.  I 
>>>>> got
>>>>> very specific answers that honestly scare me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then this afternoon I realized that my transportation master plan is 
>>>>> an
>>>>> epic fail for entirely other reasons.  So I may very well have to find
>>>>> other transportation to this event, not because of the dog but because 
>>>>> I
>>>>> can't be in two places at once.  Honestly I need to be more diligent
>>>>> about putting things in the calendar. *sigh*
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the feedback.  It truly does help.
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 11:47 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think my questions would include, to those trusted sources first:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Describe why you feel this dog is aggressive, what kinds of 
>>>>>> situations
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> you seen in which this dog exhibited aggressive behavior?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I'd  contact the person and just flat out ask, letting him know
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you've heard reports that his dog has some issues with either
>>>>>> aggression, or
>>>>>> at the very least, making noise around other dogs, which is sometimes
>>>>>> mistaken for aggression. I'd let him know that you are concerned 
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> riding in a closed vehicle with this dog and just want to know where
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> stand, not to criticize him or the dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that's the fair way to handle it but whatever way you choose,
>>>>>> talking to the handler is going to have to be one of those necessary
>>>>>> evils.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>>> jeninems at wowway.com
>>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Julie J.
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:28 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have another what would you do in this situation question.  I'm 
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> apologize in advance because my information is going to seem cryptic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am attending an event with other blind people and some guide dogs. 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> riding to this event in a van with one of the other guide dogs.  I am
>>>>>> planning on taking Monty.  I have heard from more than one trusted
>>>>>> source that the other guide dog is aggressive.   I do not know the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> guide dog handler at all.  I do not know what program the dog is 
>>>>>> from.
>>>>>> Not going to this event is not an option.  getting there another way 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> extremely remote option that I'm looking into.  Even if I do find 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> transportation I will be in a small hotel for the weekend where this
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> guide dog will also be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what do I do?  I've thought about leaving Monty, but there won't 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> anyone available to care for him.  I'd have to leave him at the dog
>>>>>> sitter's
>>>>>> place.  It also feels like leaving Monty is allowing the other person
>>>>>> to not
>>>>>> take responsibility for his dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there some obvious solution that I'm overlooking? I know you guys
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> awesome and will have great ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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