[nagdu] another what would you do question

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Mon Apr 9 19:25:13 UTC 2012


That would be great!  Maybe an SF convention would be good as well.  The 
dogs could be dressed as tribbles or wookies!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question


> Okay, I have to ask,
> what is this event?
> I'm voting for the following.
> 1 Star Trek convention
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Robert Hooper
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 12:01 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>
> Julie:
>
> You acknowledge that trying to get that extra space and avoiding the 
> handler are good ideas; you also said that accomplishing that in actuality 
> would be difficult. Unfortunately, there may not be an easy solution to 
> the problem, short of avoiding going to the event altogether. If you 
> decide to go to the event, you might just have to take the risk of being 
> in close proximity to an allegedly aggressive dog. The best you can do, as 
> stated by others, is to control your dog and your environment as much as 
> you can. Also, maybe the "unknown" is playing a large role in your 
> anxiety? Have you directly contacted this individual yet? Maybe he can 
> give more specifics about his dog's behavior that might make it easier for 
> you to formulate a plan. You can still hope that he is a vigilant handler 
> who is working on a solution (or has already engaged his dog in behavior 
> modification training). Maybe this individual won't bring his dog, as a 
> result of its aggressive tendencies. I think that if you knew more of the 
> parameters, you would be in a better place for planning the operation. It 
> seems as if your best bet for doing so is to contact the handler to find 
> out the specifics of his dog's supposed aggression--does it attack and 
> kill everything within a one mile radius--or does it growl when a dog gets 
> in its face. It might only be aggressive in certain situations--a crowded 
> area, when startled, or at night. Knowing these things would help you plan 
> your activities and schedule and should fill in the gaps of "unknowns", 
> which tend to cause the most anxiety. I hope this helps a bit.
> Sincerely,
> Robert Hooper
> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Julie J.
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:36 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question
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> No, I wouldn't do anything if the growling occured without any other
> behavior.   Well, I would probably give the dog some extra space, but I
> wouldn't say anything to the person or report them to anyone.
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 4/9/2012 10:27 AM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>> I understand this, but would you call a training school or, for that 
>> matter, animal control because  dog was growling? I can see that 
>> something could happen quickly, but for me, if a dog is growling, I'm 
>> just going to steer as clear of it as I can until I know what the drill 
>> really is. I mean, I can see why the woman might have called animal 
>> control or, in my, case, the school, because of what Fisher did. He 
>> barked and growled and broke away, but experience has shown me that he 
>> wanted to get to know the dog a little bit and then he's cool. If you 
>> didn't know that dog, you might have thought he was mean. Unfortunately, 
>> in the situation I faced, the woman did know me. We could have discussed 
>> it, but instead she called the school and told them she thought I was 
>> having trouble handling my dog. It still upsets me when I think about it, 
>> but I could have understood her calling someone if she did not know me. I 
>> was holding the dog's leash, but he's strong and I wasn't expecting 
>> someone's pet to be at the convention in the hospitality room.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Apr 9, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy,
>>>
>>> I agree.  Monty has an entire repertoire of sounds.  I know him and can 
>>> interpret what the various sound effects mean, but if you don't know him 
>>> you might think he's growling, when in actuality he is moaning piteously 
>>> because his toy has rolled under the couch.  Even when he does what I'd 
>>> call growling it doesn't mean he's vicious.  He growls at me just about 
>>> daily.  He'll have a toy in his mouth and is wagging furiously.  It's 
>>> obviously an invitation to play, but if you don't know dogs it could be 
>>> scary.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2012 10:02 AM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>>>> Oh, I wo9uldn't report a dog if it growls. It depends on the other 
>>>> signs of aggression. Growls don't always mean aggression so much. My 
>>>> dog growls, he's not mean.
>>>> CL
>>>>
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