[nagdu] another what would you do question

Marsha Drenth marsha.drenth at gmail.com
Tue Apr 10 00:40:34 UTC 2012 

List, 

I too agree with Steve's below message. You beat me to the punch Steve. All
that has been posted is speculation. The input has been good and has given
Julie lots of good ideas. I think Julie knows what she needs to do and how
to handle it from here. Not trying to put words into your mouth Julie. There
have been some posts in this thread a tad off topic but I have let them
remain, thinking that this thread would eventually get back on track. So
until we hear something different, or new information, lets go on to talk
about something else, okay? 

We have beaten a dead horse dead. LOL

Marsha, Moderator


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Steven Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 7:12 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question

I have read through most of the responses from today, , and it appears that
everything that is being discussed is speculation.  I would highly suggest
that until solid facts are obtained, which is most likely going to come
through a direct conversation with the individual, this conversation will be
nothing more than that as this speculation is causing everyone to jump to
conclusions that are simply not founded at this point except through 2nd and
3rd hand knowledge.  

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of rhonda cruz
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:40 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question

 ok.  aren't our guide dogs can't bite any one.
 this guy shouldn't have gotten a guide dog.
 it makes me wonder.
..
 it seems scary.
.
. i wouldn't go to this event with this team.
 can't you back out julie.
 it's about your safely.
 here.

On Apr 9, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:

> Biting people?!  This dog has bitten people, and no one's filed 
> charges, or called Animal Control?  And what is this guy thinking, 
> working a dog that bites people?  That just seems crazy.  Are you sure
it's that bad?
> Tracy
> 
>> I don't know what the dog does, only what others have told me.  But 
>> biting people does scare me, quite a lot.
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/9/2012 8:54 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>> I have to ask, what does this dog do and why does it scare you?
>>> Kujo levels of aggression??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:47 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>>> 
>>> Jenine,
>>> 
>>> thank you.  This is sorta what I was coming to, once I got over the 
>>> initial panic. I'll have to ask around to get contact info for the 
>>> gentleman.  We have never met.
>>> 
>>> I did ask the people I talked to about what exactly the dog does.  I 
>>> got very specific answers that honestly scare me.
>>> 
>>> Then this afternoon I realized that my transportation master plan is 
>>> an epic fail for entirely other reasons.  So I may very well have to 
>>> find other transportation to this event, not because of the dog but 
>>> because I can't be in two places at once.  Honestly I need to be 
>>> more diligent about putting things in the calendar. *sigh*
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the feedback.  It truly does help.
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 11:47 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
>>>> Julie,
>>>> 
>>>> I think my questions would include, to those trusted sources first:
>>>> 
>>>> Describe why you feel this dog is aggressive, what kinds of 
>>>> situations have you seen in which this dog exhibited aggressive 
>>>> behavior?
>>>> 
>>>> Then I'd  contact the person and just flat out ask, letting him 
>>>> know that you've heard reports that his dog has some issues with 
>>>> either aggression, or at the very least, making noise around other 
>>>> dogs, which is sometimes mistaken for aggression. I'd let him know 
>>>> that you are concerned about riding in a closed vehicle with this 
>>>> dog and just want to know where things stand, not to criticize him 
>>>> or the dog.
>>>> 
>>>> I think that's the fair way to handle it but whatever way you 
>>>> choose, talking to the handler is going to have to be one of those 
>>>> necessary evils.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> jeninems at wowway.com
>>>> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:28 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] another what would you do question
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all!
>>>> 
>>>> I have another what would you do in this situation question.  I'm 
>>>> going to apologize in advance because my information is going to 
>>>> seem cryptic.
>>>> 
>>>> I am attending an event with other blind people and some guide 
>>>> dogs.  I am riding to this event in a van with one of the other 
>>>> guide dogs.  I am planning on taking Monty.  I have heard from more 
>>>> than one trusted
>>>> source that the other guide dog is aggressive.   I do not know the
>>>> other
>>>> guide dog handler at all.  I do not know what program the dog is from.
>>>> Not going to this event is not an option.  getting there another 
>>>> way is an extremely remote option that I'm looking into.  Even if I 
>>>> do find other transportation I will be in a small hotel for the 
>>>> weekend where this other guide dog will also be.
>>>> 
>>>> So what do I do?  I've thought about leaving Monty, but there won't 
>>>> be anyone available to care for him.  I'd have to leave him at the 
>>>> dog sitter's place.  It also feels like leaving Monty is allowing 
>>>> the other person to not take responsibility for his dog.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there some obvious solution that I'm overlooking? I know you 
>>>> guys are awesome and will have great ideas.
>>>> 
>>>> TIA
>>>> Julie
>>>> 
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