[nagdu] I need some advice/help

Wed Apr 11 00:48:22 UTC 2012

Jully, Please email me off list and tell me about guide dog owner training. 
Did you go through an organization? Is it cheep? Where did you get your 
harnis? My email is joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
RJ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] I need some advice/help

>I used to  ship guide dog harnesses free matter all the time. The first 
>time I didn't tape the box shut and got a lecture at the post office about 
>how inexpensive tape is and how I should get some.  I thought it couldn't 
>be sealed to be shipped free matter, but my local post office wanted tape, 
>so tape it was.
>
> At any rate, tape or no tape, the shipping is free.
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 4/10/2012 5:54 PM, Laurel wrote:
>> Good advice. I advised her to do that and I think she will. She
>> doesn't wanna pay shipping to send the harness back to that part of
>> the country, but she will if that's what she has to do to keep her dog
>> from getting taken away. She just wanted me to ask for advice on her
>> behalf, and I really appreciate you all helping out. I think she will
>> subscribe to this list soon.
>> Laurel and Stockard
>>
>> On 4/10/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home<ntorcolini at wavecable.com>  wrote:
>>> Your friend should find out the date and the approximate time that they 
>>> will
>>> be coming to get the harness. When they come, she should have the dog in 
>>> an
>>> inner room in her house. Instead of letting them into her house to take 
>>> the
>>> harness, she can take it out to them. If the harness is all that they 
>>> need,
>>> then they don't need to be in her house. In any case, if they only need 
>>> the
>>> harness, then why are they coming to her house? Why can't she just mail 
>>> them
>>> the harness? Would your friend be willing to make a statement up front 
>>> that
>>> they may take the harness but not the dog, and, if they do, she will do
>>> something about it? Also, even if she cannot find the paper that says 
>>> that
>>> she owns the dog, if this is something that is issued on a regular 
>>> basis,
>>> maybe just saying that she has one would help.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Laurel"<laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I need some advice/help
>>>
>>>
>>>> No it's ok. I understand. I think the school didn't understand that
>>>> she is gonna place him. They finally told her that they won't
>>>> forceably take the dog today, but they've told her alot of things that
>>>> they renigged on and changed their minds about. They now say that they
>>>> will send a trainer out to get the harness, but my friend is worried
>>>> that when they get there, they will try and take the dog too. This
>>>> school has just been horrible about communication, support and they
>>>> say one thing and do another one so you never know what they are gonna
>>>> do. Basically, that was the situation with that. /smiles/ It's just
>>>> hard for me to explain the entire thing since it's my friend and not
>>>> me in this situation, but I'm trying the best I can to get her some
>>>> help.
>>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home<ntorcolini at wavecable.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I am slightly confused. In your message you said:
>>>>> "She has the ability to place the dog and wants to do so so that she 
>>>>> can
>>>>> keep in contact with her dog. She loves him and has a bond with him, 
>>>>> he
>>>>> just
>>>>> can't work. The school basically said
>>>>> that they are sending a trainer out in 2 weeks to forceably take the
>>>>> dog and rehome him."
>>>>> This statement seems contradictory. If she can place him, then why are
>>>>> they
>>>>> coming to get him? Sorry, just confused.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Laurel"<laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] I need some advice/help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I haven't been part of this list for long, but I need somebody
>>>>>> to give me some advice on behalf of a friend of mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a friend who has a guide from a different school than me (I'm
>>>>>> GDB). I obviously won't say what school my friend is from, but I am
>>>>>> going to briefly detail her situation for you all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She has her third dog from this particular school. Her first dog made
>>>>>> it 3 weeks into class before getting removed from the program due to
>>>>>> aggressive growling. Her second dog barked aggressivley and she 
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> get but a week with her. She went back to the same school about 4 or 
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>> months later and was given a guide. This guide has been with her for 
>>>>>> 3
>>>>>> years. He has numerous health problems with his stomach that make it
>>>>>> not possible for him to work anymore. He also has issues with right
>>>>>> side clearance while working and my friend has suffered many injuries
>>>>>> while working this dog. This dog is a sweet dog, a good pet but not a
>>>>>> good guide. She has over the years, and imparticularly the last 6
>>>>>> months, tried desperately to get help from the school. The school has
>>>>>> told her that she's on her own and can't be helped and they refuse to
>>>>>> send a trainer out or help her in any way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, to the meat of her problem. Her dog doesn't want to work anymore
>>>>>> and is being retired. She has the ability to place the dog and wants
>>>>>> to do so so that she can keep in contact with her dog. She loves him
>>>>>> and has a bond with him, he just can't work. The school basically 
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> that they are sending a trainer out in 2 weeks to forceably take the
>>>>>> dog and rehome him. They are not planning to inform his new home of
>>>>>> any health issues he has or anything. My friend is very upset and
>>>>>> doesn't want her dog to go back to this school considering the fact
>>>>>> that they didn't care about him all this time and didn't attempt to
>>>>>> rectify the situation at all. Is there anything my friend can do to
>>>>>> keep the dog from getting taken by the school. Please don't get me
>>>>>> wrong, my friend is a great handler. She was issued a dog that due to
>>>>>> health and working issues should have never been issued. This
>>>>>> situation is not her fault. Can anybody give me any legal advice etc
>>>>>> to help with the situation. I'm willing to tell you who the school is
>>>>>> and with my friend's permission discuss the situation in full with
>>>>>> somebody, if it would help. If anybody could help me and my friend,
>>>>>> please write me privately and let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, and I apologize that this is so long.
>>>>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>>>>
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