[nagdu] walking in to objects

Sat Apr 14 15:11:46 UTC 2012

Julie,
She is a little over 2. Her birthday was in December.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Julie J.
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects

How old is she?

Julie
On 4/14/2012 9:48 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
> Julie,
> It's a combination of both direct contact with things and brushing in 
> to bushes. The vet seem to think her eyes are fine but sometimes I do 
> think differently.
> hannah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:15 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
> Hannah,
>
> Is she running you into the same things every couple of weeks?  If 
> she's making the same mistake over and over, I'd be more concerned 
> than if it is a new mistake.  Is the error a brush into something or a 
> complete full on contact with the object?  If she's brushing you into 
> things she's probably trying to get it right and just needs more 
> practice.  If it's the major full body contact, then there is a very 
> serious issue going on.  Perhaps she's distracted, didn't get enough 
> training, is experiencing visual problems or doesn't have the 
> cognitive skills to be able to judge clearance. It could also be that 
> she is nervous or simply isn't cut out to be a guide dog.  If a 
> clearance issue every couple of weeks is her sole issue then I'd also 
> agree with your O&M person that it will take time.  To me a mistake every
couple of weeks in the beginning wouldn't be concerning.
>
> I've been working with Monty for over two years and he will still 
> brush me into things occasionally.  This time of year it is usually 
> bushes or tree branches that are growing or putting out leaves or 
> whatever.  They get bigger than they were through the winter.  I'm 
> sure he's giving me the same space that he has all winter instead of
accounting for the new growth.
>
> I'm not big into collar corrections.  I will usually make a big deal 
> out of making contact with whatever it was.  If it's a tree branch I will
> grab it and give it a good shake while telling Monty no.   If he's
> having a particularly difficult day I will have him sit while I show 
> him the problem.  Then I rework the situation, giving loads of praise as
we go.
>
> HTH
> Julie
>
>
> On 4/14/2012 12:48 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to be a 
>> guide dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few things and 
>> told me, "it'll take time". I feel like running in to things should 
>> not be occurring every couple of weeks...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that 
>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't know 
>>> what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her is 
>>> enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on a
tour.
>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I 
>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted 
>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I 
>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a 
>>> horrible
> feeling.
>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>> Best, Hannah
>>>
>>>
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