[nagdu] walking in to objects

Sun Apr 15 00:53:25 UTC 2012

Laurel,
We graduated from Pilot Dogs in Ohio. I'd love it if you have some advice.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Laurel
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:39 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects

Hey Hannah, what school did you and Princess graduate from? I am from GDB
and I've had my girl for 2 years. If you wanna contact me off list I might
can help you a little. If the school that you came from has any kind of
graduate support or follow up, it might be worth trying to see if somebody
can work with you.
Laurel and Stockard

On 4/14/12, Julie J. <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Well, I don't think age is a factor then.  Young dogs don't have the 
> same cognitive ability to process multiple streams of information and 
> make decisions on the projected outcome of that information.  It's 
> different for each dog, but I'd take a guess and say that this adult 
> brain arrives somewhere around 15 months, more for some dogs and less 
> for others.  It's one of the big reasons that I cringe when I hear 
> about people working guides that are really still puppies.
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 4/14/2012 10:11 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>> Julie,
>> She is a little over 2. Her birthday was in December.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:59 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>> How old is she?
>>
>> Julie
>> On 4/14/2012 9:48 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>> Julie,
>>> It's a combination of both direct contact with things and brushing 
>>> in to bushes. The vet seem to think her eyes are fine but sometimes 
>>> I do think differently.
>>> hannah
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:15 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>
>>> Hannah,
>>>
>>> Is she running you into the same things every couple of weeks?  If 
>>> she's making the same mistake over and over, I'd be more concerned 
>>> than if it is a new mistake.  Is the error a brush into something or 
>>> a complete full on contact with the object?  If she's brushing you 
>>> into things she's probably trying to get it right and just needs 
>>> more practice.  If it's the major full body contact, then there is a 
>>> very serious issue going on.  Perhaps she's distracted, didn't get 
>>> enough training, is experiencing visual problems or doesn't have the 
>>> cognitive skills to be able to judge clearance. It could also be 
>>> that she is nervous or simply isn't cut out to be a guide dog.  If a 
>>> clearance issue every couple of weeks is her sole issue then I'd 
>>> also agree with your O&M person that it will take time.  To me a 
>>> mistake every
>> couple of weeks in the beginning wouldn't be concerning.
>>> I've been working with Monty for over two years and he will still 
>>> brush me into things occasionally.  This time of year it is usually 
>>> bushes or tree branches that are growing or putting out leaves or 
>>> whatever.  They get bigger than they were through the winter.  I'm 
>>> sure he's giving me the same space that he has all winter instead of
>> accounting for the new growth.
>>> I'm not big into collar corrections.  I will usually make a big deal 
>>> out of making contact with whatever it was.  If it's a tree branch I
will
>>> grab it and give it a good shake while telling Monty no.   If he's
>>> having a particularly difficult day I will have him sit while I show 
>>> him the problem.  Then I rework the situation, giving loads of 
>>> praise as
>> we go.
>>> HTH
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/14/2012 12:48 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to be 
>>>> a guide dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few things 
>>>> and told me, "it'll take time". I feel like running in to things 
>>>> should not be occurring every couple of weeks...
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>
>>>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that 
>>>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't 
>>>>> know what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her 
>>>>> is enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on 
>>>>> a
>> tour.
>>>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I 
>>>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted 
>>>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I 
>>>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a 
>>>>> horrible
>>> feeling.
>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>
>>>>>
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