[nagdu] walking in to objects

Sun Apr 15 16:24:31 UTC 2012

Hannah,

    If Pilot taught traffic checks, they most likely would have been 
practiced during class.

Nicole

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects


> Rhonda,
> I'm not sure. Does Pilot train them to do traffic checks? We haven't come
> across any cars that are in our way it seems like...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of rhonda cruz
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 5:48 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
> hanna,
> how does princess do with traffic checks?
> just wondering.
>
> On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>
>> Hannah,
>>
>> Can you set up obstacles to practice going around?  When I was training
> both Belle and Monty I did this.  I picked things like an empty plastic
> trash can, a jacket dropped on the sidewalk, or a trash bag full of 
> leaves.
> I'd place them so I would know where they were and could praise Monty for
> going around.  If he didn't the object was the sort that I wouldn't be
> injured by running into it.  Although the empty trash can does make a load
> of noise, which goes a long way in reinforcing the concept to the dog.
>>
>> If the underlying problem is simply that she needs more practice or more
> training this should help.  If the problem is something more serious this
> approach probably won't make any difference.
>>
>> All my best,
>> Julie
>> On 4/14/2012 7:52 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>> Nicole,
>>> My trainer usually yells at me to "stop" before Princess walks me in
>>> to something. The rest of the people who have been telling me to
>>> "give it more time" has not seen her do it though.
>>> It seems like it's been happening every couple of weeks or so
>>> although it's still pretty random.
>>> We are bonding super well, and I know we will become a great team,
>>> however I'm not sure what to do at this point because I don't know if
>>> this will ever improve since the corrections don't seem to matter to
>>> her, and I don't want to get seriously hurt at some point.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:35 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>
>>> Has this trainer seen Princess bump you into things? Have any of the
>>> people who keep telling you to give it time seen Princess bump you
>>> into things? Is this a somewhat predictable behavior, or does it just
> happen at random?
>>>
>>> Nicole
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:13 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rhonda,
>>>> I'm not sure that can happen because I'm so far from Ohio, but they
>>>> might let me go back to training. As I've mentioned before, I am
>>>> working with a professional dog trainer right now and I'm not sure
>>>> what else a trainer from Pilot could do.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of rhonda cruz
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:05 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>
>>>> i think you should ask or a trainer. to come out, and work with you,
>>>> hanna,
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Juanita,
>>>>> It only happened a couple of times during training. I believe that
>>>>> is mostly due to walking the same rout over and over again when the
>>>>> dogs were being trained. However, I want to travel and I can't have
>>>>> a dog that will walk me in to things every new place I go.
>>>>> Hugs, Hannah
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Juanita Herrera
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:19 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>>> When I first got Anise, she had trouble clearing the right side so
>>>>> at first I'd brush up against things, but correcting her firmly
>>>>> helped a lot. Also, I only had Anise for 9 days before I went home.
>>>>> My instructor said that if she didn't get better at clearing the
>>>>> right side they would not send her home with me. I was terrified I
>>>>> might have to go back to class. However, by the fifth day my
>>>>> instructor and I began to notice significant improvement. They told
>>>>> me that they were afraid I wasn't going to be able to take her
>>>>> home, but thankfully it all worked out. My question is, if this was
>>>>> occurring during training, why did they send her home? I mean, this
>>>>> can turn into a dangerous
>>>> situation, and your life can be at potential risk.
>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>> Juanita
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/13/12, Hannah Chadwick<sparklylicious at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to
>>>>>> be a guide dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few
>>>>>> things and told me, "it'll take time". I feel like running in to
>>>>>> things should not be occurring every couple of weeks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that
>>>>>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't
>>>>>>> know what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her
>>>>>>> is enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>>>>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on
>>>>>>> a
>>>> tour.
>>>>>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I
>>>>>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted
>>>>>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I
>>>>>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a
>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>> feeling.
>>>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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