[nagdu] Traffic Checks was Re: walking in to objects

Sun Apr 15 18:11:31 UTC 2012

Yes, that's pretty much what GDB teaches. However, it's not just with 
traffic. If you step out into a road where there was no car, and then one 
pulls up, the dog will also respond.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects

> Well, They sort of do.  They teach the dogs to stop if you try and go when 
> the traffic is still going.  But, they also expect you to use your own 
> judgement.  If your judgement is off tthe dog simply won't let you go. 
> Accually, I rather like that because we as travellers should learn or in 
> theory by the time we decide to get dogs have good mobility skills 
> already.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
>
>> Hanna,
>>
>> Pilot doesn't do traffic check training. That's what they told me when I 
>> was
>> there.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:15 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>> Rhonda,
>> I'm not sure. Does Pilot train them to do traffic checks? We haven't come
>> across any cars that are in our way it seems like...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of rhonda cruz
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 5:48 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>> hanna,
>> how does princess do with traffic checks?
>> just wondering.
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>>
>>> Hannah,
>>>
>>> Can you set up obstacles to practice going around?  When I was training
>> both Belle and Monty I did this.  I picked things like an empty plastic
>> trash can, a jacket dropped on the sidewalk, or a trash bag full of 
>> leaves.
>> I'd place them so I would know where they were and could praise Monty for
>> going around.  If he didn't the object was the sort that I wouldn't be
>> injured by running into it.  Although the empty trash can does make a 
>> load
>> of noise, which goes a long way in reinforcing the concept to the dog.
>>>
>>> If the underlying problem is simply that she needs more practice or more
>> training this should help.  If the problem is something more serious this
>> approach probably won't make any difference.
>>>
>>> All my best,
>>> Julie
>>> On 4/14/2012 7:52 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>> Nicole,
>>>> My trainer usually yells at me to "stop" before Princess walks me in
>>>> to something. The rest of the people who have been telling me to
>>>> "give it more time" has not seen her do it though.
>>>> It seems like it's been happening every couple of weeks or so
>>>> although it's still pretty random.
>>>> We are bonding super well, and I know we will become a great team,
>>>> however I'm not sure what to do at this point because I don't know if
>>>> this will ever improve since the corrections don't seem to matter to
>>>> her, and I don't want to get seriously hurt at some point.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:35 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>
>>>> Has this trainer seen Princess bump you into things? Have any of the
>>>> people who keep telling you to give it time seen Princess bump you
>>>> into things? Is this a somewhat predictable behavior, or does it just
>> happen at random?
>>>>
>>>> Nicole
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:13 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rhonda,
>>>>> I'm not sure that can happen because I'm so far from Ohio, but they
>>>>> might let me go back to training. As I've mentioned before, I am
>>>>> working with a professional dog trainer right now and I'm not sure
>>>>> what else a trainer from Pilot could do.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of rhonda cruz
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:05 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>
>>>>> i think you should ask or a trainer. to come out, and work with you,
>>>>> hanna,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Juanita,
>>>>>> It only happened a couple of times during training. I believe that
>>>>>> is mostly due to walking the same rout over and over again when the
>>>>>> dogs were being trained. However, I want to travel and I can't have
>>>>>> a dog that will walk me in to things every new place I go.
>>>>>> Hugs, Hannah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Juanita Herrera
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:19 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>>>> When I first got Anise, she had trouble clearing the right side so
>>>>>> at first I'd brush up against things, but correcting her firmly
>>>>>> helped a lot. Also, I only had Anise for 9 days before I went home.
>>>>>> My instructor said that if she didn't get better at clearing the
>>>>>> right side they would not send her home with me. I was terrified I
>>>>>> might have to go back to class. However, by the fifth day my
>>>>>> instructor and I began to notice significant improvement. They told
>>>>>> me that they were afraid I wasn't going to be able to take her
>>>>>> home, but thankfully it all worked out. My question is, if this was
>>>>>> occurring during training, why did they send her home? I mean, this
>>>>>> can turn into a dangerous
>>>>> situation, and your life can be at potential risk.
>>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>>> Juanita
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/13/12, Hannah Chadwick<sparklylicious at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to
>>>>>>> be a guide dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few
>>>>>>> things and told me, "it'll take time". I feel like running in to
>>>>>>> things should not be occurring every couple of weeks...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"<sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that
>>>>>>>> Princess shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't
>>>>>>>> know what to do any more because I don't feel like correcting her
>>>>>>>> is enough and that after a while she forgets about it altogether.
>>>>>>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>> tour.
>>>>>>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I
>>>>>>>> corrected her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted
>>>>>>>> about it, and it's getting more difficult for me to trust her. I
>>>>>>>> don't feel safe walking at night or in the dark now, and it's a
>>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>> feeling.
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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