[nagdu] walking in to objects

Thu Apr 19 21:22:36 UTC 2012

I'm willing to work things out in this working out process, but I'm not
willing to have either of us get seriously hurt. She seems to do this in
unfamiliar areas and that definitely is pretty bad because if it's areas
that I know well, then I could keep teaching her and she'll improve. The
thing is, I like to travel and explore places that are bnot familiar and and
those are the times I walk in to something, it's usually a pole. I don't
find anything unusual in places that Princess seems to have trouble with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Lisa belville
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:16 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects

I know it sounds bad, but it is part of the working things out process that
both the dog and the person will go through.  I'm not trying to dismiss the
concerns at all, because I know how frustrating it is when you think
everything is fine and the dog does something unexpected like that.  I agree
with others who suggest setting Princess up in your own area.  Can you
arrange things so that they look as much like the troubled area as possible?

if she is only doing it in this one specific place, it might not be her so
much as it is something odd looking about the place that she doesn't like. 
It could be a difference in the color and texture of the concrete or
something else most of us clueless bipeds don't notice.

1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . . 
TOMORROW!!
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects

> Lisa,
> I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. Every couple of weeks is
> pretty bad... I understand that they are only dogs and they have to have
> room to work with, but the times Princess walked me in to something are 
> when
> there is a lot of room, and a lot of the times she does it in unfamiliar
> areas. Thank you for the suggestion, but I can't go back to the places she
> walked me in to things because those are areas I don't often go to; for
> example a college I was visiting.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Lisa belville
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:56 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
> Well, every couple of weeks isn't really that bad.  Can you arrange to 
> come
> to the same place every day and rework it for a few minutes?
>
>
> 1st Law of Procrastination: that which can be done will be done . . .
> TOMORROW!!
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>
>
>>I highly doubt it. I have a mobility instructor here who used to be a 
>>guide
>> dog trainer for over 10 years. He's suggested a few things and told me,
>> "it'll take time". I feel like running in to things should not be
>> occurring
>> every couple of weeks...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:19 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>> Can Pilot send a trainer out there?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:59 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] walking in to objects
>>
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I know that bonding can take up to a year, but I also know that Princess
>>> shouldn't be walking me in to things. I honestly don't know what to do
>>> any
>>> more because I don't feel like correcting her is enough and that after a
>>> while she forgets about it altogether.
>>> Today I went to visit the University of Santa Cruz and we went on a 
>>> tour.
>>> Princess for some reason walked me in to a pole and as usually I
>>> corrected
>>> her. This has occurred a few times since I last posted about it, and 
>>> it's
>>> getting more difficult for me to trust her. I don't feel safe walking at
>>> night or in the dark now, and it's a horrible feeling.
>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, advice?
>>> Best, Hannah
>>>
>>>
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