[nagdu] Smack Down

Thu Apr 26 15:38:25 UTC 2012

Oh, the Hole-E-Roller is really cool.  My first dog loved them.  I think 
those are also called frame balls because they're basically the stitching of 
a ball rather than an actual round ball.  I know I'm not explaining this 
right, but they're great for playing inside and come in a variety of sizes.
When life gives you lemons, throw them at something.  Always makes me feel 
better.
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Smack Down

> Tami,
>
> I found:
> JW PET - Arachnoid Ball
> JW PET - Cuz, Dexter & Darwin
> JW PET - Duck Dummies
> JW PET - Giggler Ball
> JW PET - Hard Rubber
> JW PET - Holee Roller Balls
> JW PET - Invincible Chains
> JW PET - iSqueak
> JW PET - Ruffians
> JW PET - Whirl-Wheel
>
> Is it maybe the I squeak or the Giggler ball?  I didn't see anything 
> called a Shadow ball.
>
> BTW I have purchased toys from the Cuz line and they are very durable.  So 
> is the Invincible Chain, Ruffians and the Hole-e-roller ball, although my 
> dogs aren't into that one so much. If anyone was looking for other durable 
> toys.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> On 4/25/2012 8:29 PM, Tami Kinney wrote:
>> Julie,
>>
>> You can get them at most pet stores, at least out here. The company is JW 
>> Pet, so you can also check their site:
>>
>> http://www.jwpet.com/
>>
>> I think you can order from there... I may have to start doing that 
>> myself, since between lost balls and balls finally giving up after years 
>> of hard play and chewing, I'm needing to restock. /smile/
>>
>> They come in several sizes, and for our dogs, I prefer the size that is 
>> just a little larger than a tennis ball. Mostly because I can kick it 
>> under the poodle, so she can't block with her legs. /lol/ That girl was a 
>> soccer pro in her last life for sure! I was clearly not. /lol/
>>
>> Anyway, the squeak is quite something, and the different sizes have 
>> different squeaks... The dogs go nuts! So do the people if the dog plays 
>> indoors, but in a different way. They now make a ball with a softer 
>> squeak, but it doesn't hold up as well if you have a hard chewer. Or if 
>> you take your ball to the park where you dog shares it with other dogs as 
>> a token in some sort of inexplicable power politics. Everybody can see 
>> what Mitzi is doing there and how the other dogs respond and so on, but 
>> we can't figure out exactly what it all means to them. If the other dogs 
>> aren't interested in the ball, or we're there alone, then we play soccer 
>> till we drop. However... The instant one of her special friends comes in, 
>> she grabs it and races to throw it to them. She is very pleased with 
>> herself, this much is clear. Then she will pretend she doesn't care, then 
>> she will start letting me know it would be nice to have a walkabout... 
>> Preferably wherever her friend is so that she can ignore the "theft" of 
>> her ball more visibly. If the dog engages in play with me with Mitzi's 
>> ball, Mitzi will wag and grin like there is no tomorrow. She may or may 
>> not engage in the chase of the ball... If she does and even if she races 
>> ahead of the other dog, she will tag the ball and let them grab it when 
>> they get there. Or she will get the ball, then drop it for the other dog 
>> as she passes on her way back. She will prance and wag and grin like a 
>> fool for doing this. I don't get it. It's pretty funny, though. /lol/ 
>> Some buddies, she will taunt with squeaking when they come in, then snark 
>> horribly and viciously when they come over to investigate... Then they 
>> will shrug and trot away, and she will leap up to chase them down and 
>> throw the ball under their nose... They will take the ball, and the two 
>> of them will then trot around quite happily. What is up with that? Who 
>> knows? It's danged funny, though.
>>
>> Anyway, I can tell you that the balls will stand up to some pretty hard 
>> chewing over time, and the dogs love it and cannot resist it even after 
>> the squeaker comes lose and the ball goes quiet. Cool! One shadow ball 
>> managed to be run over by the garbage truck, which stopped with the ball 
>> sighing it's last sound out under it... When the truck drove off, the 
>> ball popped back into shape with a reverse squeak, and we went back to 
>> playing with it. It lasted a couple of more years, and may be one of the 
>> now somewhat worn ones still rolling around the house. /lol/
>>
>> Daisy has been known to tear one up every now and then, but she likes the 
>> squeak so stopped doing that. Silly girl. Zay hasn't quite figured out 
>> what to do with them yet... She's going to be a power chewer for sure, so 
>> we'll see.
>>
>> Anyway, that's all I know. Oh, except that Mitzi will use a shadow ball 
>> to squeak guide when we're on a trail. I know where the turns are or the 
>> trouble spots are because she will squeak a certain way as she leaps 
>> across the exact spot  I need to turn while leaping across the trail. 
>> This works, and I started laughing and clicking her for that, which is 
>> positive reinforcement, so yes I actually tasked trained her to squeak 
>> guide. For a stubborn , obnoxious poodle child, she is really very easy. 
>> /lol/ She also doesn't like to have to listen to me whining and 
>> complaining when I get lost in a 1 ft square of grass because I walked 
>> off the trail and am confuse. How boring for her! Thus, squeak guiding 
>> began. Silly poodle!
>>
>> Also, the squeak is so impossibly tempting to a dog, it has been a great 
>> boundary and recall training tool. As well as the regular soccer ball. 
>> I'm really grumpy this last week or so, because I have neither and can't 
>> afford to run out and buy replacements while we're over in this nice big 
>> yard. Unfenced. So I have to keep the dogs on leash because Mitzi has 
>> decided boundaries are too boring for her... Well, she's getting better 
>> when I give her a little freedom, since being on leash is really not for 
>> her. But she's still routinely flipping me the finger over the issue, 
>> so... More leading the dogs around the yard on leashes for me! /lol/ If 
>> only I had brought the proper training supplies!
>>
>> Anyway, if you find them, let me know how they work with your giganto 
>> power dog. We have one of those in the works, so I will be coming to you 
>> desperate for ideas about toys for the thing. /lol/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 04/25/2012 02:46 PM, Julie J. wrote:
>>> Tami,
>>>
>>> Where can I get the balls you described...the ones that don't break the 
>>> windows or TV when they go ricocheting through the house?   And how big 
>>> are they?  Meaning will my horse of a dog be in danger of swallowing 
>>> them? Are they pretty durable?  Monty can bite a regular tennis ball in 
>>> half.  He's what I'd describe as a strong chewer, but not quite in the 
>>> power chewer league like Mark's dog!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/25/2012 4:14 PM, Tami Kinney wrote:
>>>> OMG! Do you have bubble wrap for all the furniture. That would be *a 
>>>> lot* of rowdy between the two of you. /lol/
>>>>
>>>> Oh, this from someone who plays soccer with the dog in the house, even 
>>>> if with a j-Squeak ball and not a regulation soccer ball... What I love 
>>>> about our "shadow balls" is that when they bounce off the TV or the 
>>>> computer screen or other breakable things, they don't break them! /lol/
>>>>
>>>> The puppy's game is keep away... Guess who gets to do the puppy 
>>>> chasing? /lol/ We're turning the use of contraband for tokens to keep 
>>>> away from me into work on "bring it" and "drop it" now, and are making 
>>>> progress. Whew. But then I must play keep away when she initiates the 
>>>> game with a toy or bone. /lol/ I keep complaining that I am way too old 
>>>> for this, but she has as much concern over my feeble decrepitude as 
>>>> Mitzi does when I say the same thing about soccer.
>>>>
>>>> DD does some wrestling with his oversized brick of a puppy, but he is 
>>>> made of sterner stuff than I... She's a sweetie and works to remember 
>>>> "gentle" but she is still a big pup with a strong mouth, so when it's 
>>>> my arm with which she forgets "gentle," I am not having fun. /lol/ I'll 
>>>> leave the smack down to you big, strong manly types!
>>>>
>>>> Tami
>>>>
>>>> On 04/24/2012 02:49 PM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>>>>> Dar,
>>>>>    What I call "smack down" is simply rough housing with my dog. I'm 
>>>>> not a fan of professional wrestling, but they have a program called 
>>>>> "Smack Down". He loves it when I play rough with him, grabbing his 
>>>>> feet,pushing him around, and smacking his muzzle. It's all in fun and, 
>>>>> sometimes, he gets the best of me! He's knocked me down a couple of 
>>>>> times and once took off one of my shoes and ran away with it! My 
>>>>> family has started calling him by the nickname Larry gave him: 
>>>>> Dogzilla!
>>>>>
>>>>> fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK what on heavens is smack down,
>>>>>> is this with a ball?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Cindy and All,
>>>>>>>     Behind the Anatole, where the patio and relief area are located, 
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> huge park called Anatole Park. It has a rubber path for jogging and 
>>>>>>> walking.
>>>>>>> It's a great place to play ball, Frisbee, or smack-down, my dog's 
>>>>>>> favorite!
>>>>>>> grin)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>>>> Marion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:24 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where do you go to the park for your dog to play at convention, 
>>>>>>>> Marion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>> for nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40samobile.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> --Dar
>>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>>>  FB: dmgina
>>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tamara.8024%40comcast.net
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>> nagdu:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/julielj%40neb.rr.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> nagdu:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tamara.8024%40comcast.net
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> nagdu:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/julielj%40neb.rr.com
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nagdu mailing list
> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nagdu:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/missktlab1217%40frontier.com 