[nagdu] Question about crossing streets - hope this is guide dog related

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Mon Apr 30 17:04:47 UTC 2012


I just have a oorang hat!  And, I sometimes wear a bright yellow fuzzy vest.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Question about crossing streets - hope this is guide 
dog related


>
> Hi Dar.
> That's interesting, that Drew thought a yellow dog would be better for
> you.  I prefer a black dog, just because I think people are less apt to
> bother a dark dog.
> I do have a light-colored jacket I wear all the time, when it's cold, and
> I have a jacket with some reflective strips on it, but it's pretty old and
> may not be too shiny anymore.
> I also have a reflective vest, but I usually forget to have it along.  I
> think someone on this list almost got run over while wearing a reflective
> vest, and when he asked the driver what was up with that, the driver said
> he thought the person was a roadworker.  As if it's OK to run over
> roadworkers.
> I firmly believe that ordinary, decent people turn into psychotic maniacs
> when they get behind the wheel.
> BTW, Drew did my Juno walk and home interview, too.  How 'bout that!
> Tracy
>> Now that would be entertaining, I would be afraid I might hit someone
>> with the cane, not meaning to do so.
>> yes I would like to have a free hand as well.
>> When I was taking the walk, Drew mentioned he thought it would be
>> better if I had a yellow lab over the black.
>> I shared that I would rather have black, he wanted the yellow because
>> he thought cars would see the yellow better.
>> Now I wear a red jacket in the fall and spring, but the summer my
>> colors for the most part are colorful.
>> Is that what you folks do, wear bright colors for the most part so cars
>> can see you?
>> Original message:
>>> I have heard that, in England, guide dog users also carry a short white
>>> ID
>>> cane, and wave it when they come to an intersection, especially a
>>> complicated intersection.  It gives the drivers two clues that the
>>> pedestrian is blind.
>>> It's an interesting idea, although I like to have a hand free, so
>>> wouldn't
>>> really want to hold a cane and work my dog, under most circumstances.
>>> Tracy
>>
>>>> Hi Marilyn,
>>
>>>> I absolutely believe this.  In fact, as I transition to a new guide, I
>>>> am
>>>> using a white cane in the meantime, and ironically, have had this exact
>>>> concept really jump out at me.  In fact, I am offered more assistance
>>>> when
>>>> using the white cane than I have ever with a guide.
>>
>>>> Steve
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of marilyn
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:42 AM
>>>> To: nagdu
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Question about crossing streets - hope this is guide
>>>> dog
>>>> related
>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> yesterday I had a day off from work so I went to a library where  there
>>>> was
>>>> a guest speak there from the National Helen Keller Center who teaches
>>>> mobility. He did a power point presentation and told us that when a
>>>> blind
>>>> or
>>>> blind/deaf person tries crossing a street the driver pays more
>>>> attention
>>>> to
>>>> a cane user than to a guide dog user. We were told they did some
>>>> research
>>>> in
>>>> Maryland, Minnesota and I forgot the other state. They did suburbs and
>>>> city.
>>>> the man doing the presentation who can see and still drives a car did
>>>> the
>>>> research. he told us he has glaucoma. He said he dressed in regular
>>>> street
>>>> clothing , put dark glasses on and used a cane, then a flag and then
>>>> held
>>>> his hand up to stop traffic to cross.
>>>> They had a grant to do this study. I told him since every day I cross
>>>> streets with my guide dog and have had close calls I would have been
>>>> killed
>>>> with a cane. My dog didn't go across until it was safe even if I give
>>>> the
>>>> forward command. I was told that a guide dog team was killed last year
>>>> because the dog went forward and the person had a hearing problem
>>>> besides
>>>> being blind. I told him I cannot comment on what happened to this
>>>> person
>>>> because pedestrians who can see are hit by cars every day.
>>>> My question is do you think people who drive cars pay more attention to
>>>> a
>>>> cane user when your trying to cross a street or do people pay attention
>>>> to
>>>> a
>>>> guide dog user?
>>>> I asked why a study wasn't done about guide dog users crossing streets
>>>> and
>>>> was told there wasn't a grant for that study since more people use
>>>> canes
>>>> than dogs.
>>>> Marilyn and Anna
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