[nagdu] Dog Training

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Thu Aug 9 14:24:09 UTC 2012


Aggreed Cindy.  I'm just pointing out that training is different because of 
bias on the part of schools or for that matter of individuals.  Of course, 
the reverse also applies.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Training


> Larry, all you say is true, but just because a dog was trained in and with 
> a program is irrelevant. If you take your dog home from a program and 
> decide it's all good if he is on the bed, then very soon he will hang out 
> there. If you don't discipline the dog when she chews up something, then 
> soon she is chewing up more stuff. The dog is sent out well trained 
> usually, but if the person who is handling the dog does not re-enforce 
> that training, then much of it can become lost. The biases would certainly 
> exist, but they exist whether or not you trained the dog from the 
> beginning.
>
> CL
>
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>
>> My thaughts on the matter of dog training are these:  First, a program 
>> trained dog is trained by an organization or group that follows a 
>> specific formula because they can't predict where or who is going to get 
>> the dog. With owner trained dogs, the owner and trainer are the same 
>> person.  This is great because the bond between them can develop and grow 
>> very strong.  Second, I feel that program dogs are trained for a wider 
>> variety of conditions than owner trained dogs.  Lastly, in both 
>> circumstances dogs are trained for certain tasks.  The program formulas 
>> tend to try and address most undesirable behaviors.  Owner trained dogs 
>> adress them as well but because of biases they have some trainers may not 
>> address some issues that programs might.  For example, I know a hearing 
>> dog who rides in the care and is great in public!  But, her owner doesn't 
>> really care if she chews up stuff sence at her place she can do that. 
>> When she comes over however, she chews up everything in sight!  Also she 
>> isn't the most socialized dog around and can be prone to bite while 
>> playing.  I'm not picking on iether method, I'm just pointing out that if 
>> dogs are owner trained, bias has to be accounted for.  If you don't mind 
>> if you're dog gets on the bed, you may not enforce that as strong as the 
>> no biting thing.  If you travel really well, you may not train your dog 
>> to find curbsd as well as the program folks might and so on.  Both ways 
>> can be good and I'm not in favor of one over another.
>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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