[nagdu] Thinking of getting a guide dog

[Margo and Arrow]

Cindy, the cane can be a very valuable technique for figuring out things that cannot be figured out by use of senses, questioning, reading directions, etc. There are those times when we need a cane to help us understand and then pattern and/or give ing proper commands at the phoper times. I don't usually use a cane when exploring somewhere new, but, I'm glad it's there for me to use if need be.



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Date: Saturday, Aug 18, 2012 08:49:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Thinking of getting a guide dog

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> I really have to say something here that I hope all don't take wrong. Maybe I'm not the best of dog users, but I found that in many ways I could explore places better with a cane often. Why? Because when I have done things trial and error, the dog becomes confused rather than patterning, and when I go to do the thing again, we haven't learned it. Maybe if I used the cane more, the telescoping one that I use, I could find the landmarks that help me to find things and, thus pattern faster. On the other hand, in parking lots, the dog will seek an entrance to somewhere and take me right to those. The inability to explore has been a bit of a problem for me all along, but it is a small thing compared to the joys of having my dogs. Maybe there is something I can learn from this list about those things. Now, once I finally get the point and the dog does, too, I am able to directly travel from Point A to Point B, and I think in the end I find Point B a little faster.
> 
> Cindy Lou
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> On Aug 18, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
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> > Buddy, yes, the clues and cues are different as are landmarks, but, I believe the more you've done with a cane, the more confidence you have with a dog, and, the more you work a dog, the more confidence you have with a cane.
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> > Margo and Arrow
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> >> Wow, that's a difficult one to answer. 
> >> 
> >> My first reaction is to say you do the same thing you would with a cane, just that the kinds of landmarks and clues you use will be different. You might take a cane with you for the difficult bits, or to heel a dog through something you particularly want to show him, like the third sidewalk on the left. Basically, you'll probably figure out the most comfortable thing for yourself. Me, I just get up and go and figure it out on the way.
> >> chí
> >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV chí Erie, PA
> >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
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> >> On Aug 18, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Reinhard Stebner <raydar11011 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Also, how do you use a dog in an area where one has never been before and
> >>> you do not know the rout? How do you figure out where everything is?
> >>> 
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> >>> Hello everyone,
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> >>> I am new to this list and I have been considering getting a guide dog for
> >>> some time now.  I know I have questions but I really don't know what they
> >>> are.  I have a feeling once i start getting some  replies
> >>> I might start figuring these questions out.
> >>> 
> >>> I am not sure how guide dogs really work in the sense of feeling edges. For
> >>> example with my cane I can feel the curb coming up and know where the edge
> >>> is but with a dog how does this work?  Also the same goes for steps.How will
> >>> I know if they go up or down with a dog?  With a cane I can feel them and
> >>> know instantly.  this is just one example of my thinking.
> >>> 
> >>> I am totally a dog person and have been for a very long time.  My wife is
> >>> also a vet tech.  If this doesn't say that we are dog people I don't know
> >>> what does.  I heard that you shouldn't have a guide dog while  you have
> >>> other dogs in the house?  I currently have 2 dogs as pets.  Is this and
> >>> issue?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for all the help.
> >>> 
> >>> Matt.
> >>> 
> >>> Matt gilman
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