[nagdu] Introduction

Thu Aug 30 00:41:40 UTC 2012

 i enjoy the guide dog life stile.
 i would never go back to the cane.

 the dog is awesome.

On Aug 29, 2012, at 2:01 PM, lrsj89 at aol.com wrote:

> I agree with you dogs rock .
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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> On Aug 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> In the 30s when people were getting dogs, it was the first they had really had a reliable mobility tool. Morris Frank was not real independent as a traveler until such time as he got the dog. People felt an amazing sense of independence. I'm here to tell you, that I was always independent with a cane, but the public thinks that I am the better off now because I am using a dog and that using a dog has changed my life; now I can get out. People were amazed in the 30s, too, but they still didn't grasp the concept that the animal should be allowed in public locations. 
>> 
>> CL
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>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
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>>> I know this. And I've always wondered why people in the 1930's got dogs too. Some of it I'm sure had to do with that cane travel as we know it hadn't been invented, so the dog was probably a lot easier. 
>>> If anybody from the 1930's is around, I'd love to ask this question of them. 
>>> I asked my question of the woman from Sweeden because I really am curious. Is she at a point in her life where she is in a position to be a kind of protestor? Do canes not exist? Or is she like Janice Joplin where she feels that she's got nothing to loose anyway so why not do what she wants? 
>>> I truly am curious. 
>>> Are cane users in Sweeden treated better then dog users? Her post seems to suggest yes.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:22 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introduction
>>> 
>>> Wow.
>>> 
>>> The law and the public didn't necessarily have our back in the 1930's, or, indeed, later. That shift happened gradually, and with no small amount of effort on the part of guide dog users and those who *did* have our collective backs. Why should it be any different for people in countries who aren't so far along this path as we now are? This stuff didn't happen overnight nor digit happen in a vacuum. 
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2012, at 1:13 PM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm wondering why you chose to get a dog given that the law and the public don't have your back?
>>>> I get the fun of using a dog. But how fun is it if you can't take your dog where you want?
>>>> I don't mean to be disrespectful, I'm truly curious.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nadja Öberg
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:27 PM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introduction
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BS"D
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Marsha,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much! I thought that I'll say some more things about myself, I'm 27 years old and I'm a student at the University of Dalarna. I'm studying Literature right now but I'm not sure how my Bachelor of Art will look in the end. I'm living at my twin sister's (and at mum's) right now but I hope that Hera and I'll get a flat in Stockholm this autumn.
>>>> 
>>>> It isn't bad to be visually impaired in Sweden generally; we don't need to pay our aids and such things but over 50 percent of us are un-employed. This is because of the general view of blind people here, people think that we can't do things and many of us think the same. It's really sad. I love the positive philosophy of the National Federation of the Blind which don't exist here.
>>>> 
>>>> The hardest thing for guide dog owners in Sweden is that discrimination against us and our dogs isn't discrimination according to the law. The allergic subjects have had a good lobby in Sweden which has resulted in a negative view on pets at public places. We've an agreement with the allergic subjects that we'll be able to use our dogs at public places but they don't keep to it and the public often take their side because of their good lobby and the non-existent discrimination law. When I go out I need to think where I'll go and if they'll allow us to enter, it's not funny and I'm the type of person who don't seek conflicts so I feel really limited. Many guide dog owners here have started to think of emigration because our politicians don't take this question seriously because of our number.
>>>> 
>>>> LeSholom,
>>>> Nadja from Sweden
>>>> 
>>>> Page web : http://www.nadjaoberg.com
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