[nagdu] Scratching my head

[Buddy Brannan]

No Tami, you're correct. 

And, Ktrin also makes a point that I cannot underscore and emphasize vehemently enough. It is the handler, not the dog, who has public access rights. This, as I've said a thousand times, and that I know people say I'm nit picking over, is a small but very important distinction.

Also, a service dog vest does not a service dog make. Here's an analogy for you. If I put on a blue cape, does that make me Superman? Of course it doesn't, and no more does a vest make a dog a service dog, not in reality and not in the eyes of the law. Besides, I think a "protection dog" attacking someone would probably fall under the umbrella of disrupting the regular business or substantially altering the goods and services provided or some such, and would be grounds for having the dog removed from the business. 

But still. Just, wow.
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Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com> wrote:

> Yikes! I'm scurrying too much to check the law again, but I'm pretty sure I remember that it rules out guard/protection dogs from the service dog category... If I'm wrong, I hope to be corrected. /smile/
> 
> Also, the requirement of the handler to have a disability is a deal breaker for a healthy exec who just wants a tough dog to protect him.
> 
> I agree with you that an added layer of confusion about those legal definitions is the last thing any of us need. If I had a dime for every minute I've spent trying to un-miseducate folks about what a SD is or isn't and what comfort dog is or isn't and so on, I'd be out spending all that money right now! /lol/
> 
> In terms of pure feeling about it, I'm not altogether comfortable with having trained attack dogs on the same bus with me and my guide. True, the dog may be very well trained in obedience and only attacking on command and so on. However, just as with guide dogs who are trained to never attack at all, no matter what, the handler who takes over from the trainer may or may not be on top of these things. /shudder/
> 
> Or am I just having a paranoid day there? Like I say, it's just what my gut says. No facts or stats or anything informational behind that feeling. /smile/
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 12/07/2012 12:26 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I herd of someone who has an "executive protection dog" read attack dog,
>> that he claims is a service dog. This can't be legal, can it? The man
>> has no disabilities, however, his dog has a "service dog" vest, and is
>> trained to do a couple service dog tasks like pick up dropped items, and
>> leash guyed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Check out this website, this seems to be very misleading, and
>> potentially hazardous to our access rights.
>> http://www.cqbk9.com/personalprotectiondogs/service-dogs
>> 
>> 
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