[nagdu] Hi there

Wed Dec 19 17:53:01 UTC 2012

Julie, Tami and others,
I'm curious how much you pay for the breeding, training and the like?
I can understand training your own dog, but I've always heard that a private trainer was expensive. Julie, how did you find yours? What will happen if you tell him or her to train the dog to do x, and the dog doesn't learn this skill? Is the trainer at fault and how do you know if the trainer did something that went against your instructions or if the dog just can't or won't learn the skill.

Where does the time to find the right breeder and trainer come from? Do you go as a family to find these people, or do you do it on your own and then tell the spouse and kids what you're doing?
What is the trainer's deliverable exactly?

Do you have money set aside for dog stuff if this is as expensive as I think it may be?
Very curious to understand this.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:47 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi there

Julie,

Wow! You *are* getting an early start! /smile/ I'm planning to wait
another year, at least, to get a younger pup, so Mitzi will be 7 or more
then... I'm like you, though. I go back and forth a lot at this point,
since I don't absolutely have to make the decision now. /smile/

I'll be looking forward to hearing about your dobie pick! I haven't
found a breeder yet that I'm happy with, but I have feelers out.
Starting next summer or thereabouts, I'm going to need to get serious, huh?

It's confusing for me, since poodles are supposed to live much longer
than other large breed dogs -- 14 to 20! So I don't want to be too
conservative in planning for Mitzi's retirement. What to do? What to do?
/lol/

Tami

On 12/19/2012 05:39 AM, Julie J. wrote:
> Monty is a Boxer and Lab mix.  Belle is a lab and who knows what mix.
> Tia was a Coonhound.  All have had their strengths and weaknesses.  I
> have never seen a dog so aware of overhead obstacles as Miss Tia.  I
> guess being bred to run raccoons up a tree caused her to be more aware
> of the concept of up.  I wouldn't choose another Coonhound though.
> Mostly I trained her because she was there and I wanted to see if I
> could do it.
>
> My next dog will most likely be a Doberman, which is actually the breed
> I have been looking for from the beginning.  I've been saving up and I
> think I can find one this time.  a Boxer is also a consideration, but
> I'm not finding a breeder in the Midwest that I'm satisfied with.  I'm
> still looking though.
>
> Previously my dogs have come from shelters.  this time I'm strongly
> leaning toward going with a breeder, a young puppy and I'm having a
> private trainer raise the puppy and do the initial guide training. After
> a lot of soul searching and changing my mind two dozen times I have
> decided to go the route of private trainer.  I simply do not have the
> time or energy to train another guide dog, but I'm not 100% comfortable
> with the offerings of any of the available programs.  I'm very excited
> about this arrangement because I don't have to put in the time and
> effort, but I still get to choose all the important things to me
> throughout the process.
>
> As of right now the puppy will be born sometime in the spring.  He will
> go to the trainer in the summer, where he will stay for somewhere in the
> neighborhood of 18 to 24 months.  then probably I'll travel there to
> spend a week or so with the dog and trainer learning what I need to know
> before I bring the dog home.  If all goes well I'll have my next dog in
> a little over two years.  Monty will be about 7.5 then, which might be a
> bit young for him to retire.  However I'm not sure exactly when he'll
> start slowing down or showing signs of age related health issues, so I'm
> planning the best I can and will probably alternate between the two dogs
> to make the transition easier for both.
>
> And that is more than you asked, but there you go!
> Julie
>
>
>
> On 12/18/2012 10:37 PM, Laurel wrote:
>> Hey Debbie and all! Hope y'all are well, I've been so quiet on here
>> because I've had a crazy semester at college, but that's another post
>> under another subject line. What kind of dog is Leone, I can't
>> remember at the moment.
>> Also, as far as dog breeds go, those of you who owner train, what is
>> y'all's breed preference? What kind of dog do you all have, and what
>> are your favorite breeds to train?
>> Laurel and Stockard
>>
>> On 12/18/12, Debbie Cole<debbieanne1124 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> ***waves her yellow lab's tail at Laurel.
>>>
>>> Debbie and Leone
>>>
>>> On 12/18/12, Laurel<laurel.stockard at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Ok y'all, how many poodles do we have, I don't know. I also wanna know
>>>> how many shepherds we have etc. I have a yellow lab. It would be cool
>>>> also to know which are the most represented schools on here, Pilot,
>>>> GDB, TSE etc. I'm from Guide Dogs for the Blind. This could be sort of
>>>> fun. :)
>>>> Laurel and Stockard, yellow lab from GDB
>>>>
>>>> On 12/18/12, consuelo johnson<consuelo.johnson050 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> I'm working a davenman pitcher and she is a wonderful guide.  I
>>>>> just got
>>>>> her
>>>>> about a week ago so we are a new team right now.
>>>>> consuelo
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jessica
>>>>> Pitzer
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:21 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi there
>>>>>
>>>>> i have a black lab
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/18/12, John Russo<johnnyrusso at windstream.net>  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi members,
>>>>>> How many guide dog users have Doberman Pinchers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:49 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Hi there
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that we know there are several puddles out there giggle, How many
>>>>>> black labs or even how many yellow labs are out there.
>>>>>> On this list.
>>>>>> Just thought I would have fun.
>>>>>> Tammy your address isn't coming into my address book, can you send it
>>>>>> to me please?
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