[nagdu] Sugar taking turn for worst...

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Thu Dec 27 13:51:03 UTC 2012


Hi Bunny.
I'm so sorry.  What a horrible way to spend the holidays.  May Sugar Ray's 
passing be peaceful.

I adore standard poodles.  I grew up with them, too.  Good luck with your 
new poodle.  He sounds beautiful.
Blessed be.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bunny Davidson" <bunnydavidson at live.com>
To: "National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Sugar taking turn for worst...


>
> HI all,
> sadly i spent Christmas day at vet hospital in mass. with my boy sugar 
> ray...
> his cancer is taking him away from me quicker then i'd like but he's been 
> with
> me a month longer then i expected...we are getting a foot n a half of snow 
> tonight
> and tomorrow, i have house call with vet to come friday afternoon and put 
> sugar to sleep.
> he is barely eating and has had such horrid reactions to the medicines, 
> now the cancer
> is in his lungs and he's got a heart murmur...
>
> I saw the posts about standard poodle guide dogs, my first service dog was 
> a std poodle
> because of the non-allergic factor and they are way smart dogs.
> RIP Suzy Q.
>
> I have made contact in last month or so with several rescues and breeders 
> seeking to adopt a young adult
> dog who i can train for service work....guess God answered part of my 
> prayers anyways cause today at 1130 a
> beautiful grand champion silver standard poodle boy of 3 years old was 
> brought here by a breeder / show person
> who wanted him to have a pet home cause she 'finished' him in ring and had 
> enough offspring by him...I am going to
> have him neutered and begin working with him after my sugar passes.
>
> I have had standard's as pets/show dogs since i was a child, my 
> grandfather raised them and i had my 'own' for a 1st bday gift from him,
> her name was boodie and she lived to be 19.5 years old...i had her 'my 
> whole life' at that point.
> as an adult i did some breeding/showing of stds prior to my 
> accident...since then i could'nt groom them myself
> so as they passed of old age i got boxers instead, now each and every 
> boxer has gotten cancer and not made it
> to it's 10th birthday.
>
> I hope you are all doing well through the holidays and into the new year. 
> this is the 2nd christmas in a row i'm putting a dog to sleep with cancer, 
> last year Christmas day it was big boy...my big white boxer boy-pet, now 
> my service dog Sugar ray wont make it to new years.
> please keep us in prayers and warm thoughts, its very sad here for me, my 
> dogs are my world.
> blessings to all,
> bunny
>
>
>
>> From: sparklylicious at gmail.com
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:46:42 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re:  Princess Update
>>
>> Tami,
>> I'm not really sure if Princess has siblings lol. she's almost 3 and 
>> there
>> were two other poodles at training with us last year and they were both
>> siblings. I wish I knew her siblings and got to talk to her puppy raiser,
>> would have loved to hear all the cute stories and see the adorable pics 
>> of
>> Princess when she was little *smile*.
>> hannah
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chantel 
>> Cuddemi
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:42 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update
>>
>> Tami,
>>
>> Princess and Motley are not siblings.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:37 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update
>>
>> That's right! Isn't Motley a sibling of Princess? Gary's Bogart is also a
>> poodle... Larry's Holly is a pretty poodley doodle. /smile/ Have I 
>> forgotten
>> anyone else? /lol/ For a long time, I think I was the only poodle guide 
>> user
>> on the list. It's great to see all the new poodle guide users coming 
>> along!
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 12/18/2012 02:12 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>> > Tami,
>> >
>> > Your girl isn't the only poodle on the list! My Motley is a standard
>> poodle
>> > too!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:05 PM
>> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> > Subject: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update
>> >
>> > John and Larry,
>> >
>> > Yup! I am super happy with my poodle! She is, as someone has already
>> > mentioned, high maintenance, both in grooming and energy and
>> > temperament. But she is also an absolute delight to have around, and
>> > the nonshedding around the house is a plus. On the job, she is safety
>> > conscious, clever, still jittery at times like a prancing Arabian 
>> > horse.
>> > /lol/
>> >
>> > I looked into the breed because of my ex-husband's allergies. Then I
>> > divorced the allergies and got a poodle anyway. /smile/ So I can't
>> > speak from experience about handling the poodle as someone who needs
>> > that breed for allergies of my own.
>> >
>> > Main considerations, as I can see them, in getting a poodle guide
>> > include the cost of grooming (ouch!) and the super high energy and
>> > high alert temperament. How much you will pay for grooming depends on
>> > where you live, as will how often you need to take your poodle to the
>> groomer.
>> > People seem to settle in at once every 4 to 8 weeks, although a few
>> > daring souls go 12 weeks between grooming. I go longer in winter; but
>> > after about 8 weeks, that luxuriant black wool of hers gets out of 
>> > hand!
>> > /lol/
>> >
>> > It seems that as the training programs have become more experienced
>> > with the wild woolly ones, they've learned to adapt to the temperament
>> > and teach their grads how to do so. So one adaptation I learned to use
>> > that I now hear program grads with poodles talking about is allowing
>> > the poodle to find an out of the way place where it can watch what is
>> > going on on the bus or in the restaurant, etc. I tried training my
>> > girl to be in a nice, neat, still ball at first, and that did not
>> > work! She would get too jumpy. Then I discovered that if she could
>> > face the bus door or the main part of the restaurant where things were
>> > happening, then she would be just fine. So that's what we do, and we
>> > have learned ways to keep her out of the way of being stepped on.
>> > /smile/
>> >
>> > That's about all I can think of that's useful for now.
>> >
>> > Welcome to the list, and keep us posted about what you find out and
>> > decide to do!
>> >
>> > Tami
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/18/2012 01:21 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> >> you are right Hannah!  My experience with Holly was and still is 
>> >> great!
>> >> So to HJohn, I don't think Pilot was any different than any other
>> >> school I've heard about.  Sometime4s even though the schools try, for
>> >> some reason a match doesn't work well.  I was told once when I signed
>> >> up for the library in Australia out of Perth that labradoodles don't
>> >> make good guides!  Well, I sure have a different experience and I
>> >> think Tami with her poodle is pretty happy!  When the mmatch is good 
>> >> it
>> works out great!
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannah Chadwick"
>> >> <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:30 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Princess Update
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hello John,
>> >>> Congratulations on your application process, and I hope you hear
>> >>> from them soon. I had a pretty good experience while training with
>> >>> Princess. We
>> did
>> >>> run in to a few incidents which I was told to give it time and
>> >>> things will fall in place. I don't really know what went wrong or
>> >>> where it started since she is my first guide and I did not know what
>> >>> to expect.
>> >>> I think each person's experience will vary, and every match will be
>> >>> different. Although Princess's personality definitely matches with
>> >>> mine, her speed did lack. She did make progress with my persistence,
>> >>> but her attention span seemed to have gotten shorter. She is a
>> >>> standard poodle and is definitely a people dog.
>> >>> While going through this process of retiring her, I have also been
>> >>> working on my application for Guide Dogs for the Blind in San
>> >>> Rafael. So as of now, I am not planning on returning to Pilot Dogs.
>> >>> please feel free to email me off list if you have further questions.
>> >>> All the best, Hannah
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John
>> >>> Russo
>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:04 PM
>> >>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Princess Update
>> >>>
>> >>> Greetings Hannah,
>> >>> I'm new to the list.  I read your message with some concern, because
>> >>> I've never owned a guide dog, teach at a college and applied for
>> >>> training at Pilot Dogs.  I'm curious, what breed is Princess?  Do
>> >>> you feel Pilot trained her well, or was the training lacking in some
>> >>> way?  Would you return to Pilot Dogs for training in the future?
>> >>> I'd hate to have a bad first
>> >>> experience.  Please reply.   John
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hannah
>> >>> Chadwick
>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:55 PM
>> >>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> >>> Subject: [nagdu] Princess Update
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello all,
>> >>> Happy holidays, and I hope each one of you is doing well.
>> >>> As I mentioned a few weeks back, I planned on sending Princess back
>> >>> to Pilot Dogs because she is not doing so well on my college campus
>> >>> due to all
>> the
>> >>> distractions.
>> >>> These past few weeks have been quite difficult because I've been
>> >>> going back and forth with myself on whether I should keep her or
>> >>> give her back.
>> >>> However, her crate came over the weekend and now everything is set.
>> >>> She is
>> >>> flying via cargo on Thursday night back to Columbus, Ohio. I hope
>> >>> she will get more training and perhaps she will do better in another
>> >>> environment.
>> >>> I know the next few days will be very difficult, especially after
>> >>> she leaves because although she was not a very good guide, she was
>> >>> always there and her presents definitely helped me through stressful
>> >>> times.
>> >>> This year has been one of the most difficult because I lost my
>> >>> father just a few months back, and now I will lose Princess. I just
>> >>> hope I will be ok, and I know that the only thing to help is time.
>> >>> I want to take the time to thank each and every one of you for all
>> >>> your support. You have helped me through all my past difficulties
>> >>> with Princess, and you were very patient with me when I first got
>> >>> her and had no idea what I was doing since I've never had a dog of
>> >>> my own before. I have learned so much from the list and from each
>> >>> one of you.
>> >>> I know that I will continue to learn from all of you, and when I get
>> >>> my next guide, I will have a lot of things to share. Happy holidays
>> >>> to all, and may the next year bring you joy, and contentment.
>> >>> All the best, Hannah
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami
>> >>> Jarvis
>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:59 PM
>> >>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >>> Subject: [nagdu] Princess WAS Re: second time is the charm
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, Hannah. I am so sorry you had to make this decision. I wish both
>> >>> you and Princess the best in the future.
>> >>>
>> >>> You'll know when and whether you are ready for another dog.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tami
>> >>>
>> >>> On 12/17/2012 01:51 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>> >>>> Hello Daniel,
>> >>>> Congratulations on your new dog. I'm glad to hear everything went
>> >>>> well at training. Your message has truly been delightful to read as
>> >>>> I am sending my dog back this week and pondering on weather I
>> >>>> should get another dog in the near future.
>> >>>> Happy holidays to all!
>> >>>> Best, Hannah
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:39 PM
>> >>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> >>>> Users'
>> >>>> Subject: [nagdu] second time is the charm
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hello all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am a graduate of the final class of 2012 at Guide Dogs for the
>> >>>> Blind in Portland, Oregon.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have received my second guide, Cass, a 53lb., 23" high, yellow
>> >>>> Labrador whose second birthday is coming up on December 23rd.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All I can say is the second time is the charm. She is everything my
>> >>>> previous guide was not. She is confident, well-paced, and so well
>> >>>> trained that it makes me want to cry.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We never even came close to an obstacle in training, whether day or
>> >>>> night.
>> >>>> She is perfectly attentive to me.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We got home yesterday, and had our first outing this morning for a
>> >>>> little mile walk. She made every curb, driveway, missed every bush
>> >>>> and
>> >>> mailbox.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have just received the best Christmas present I could have ever
>> >>>> dreamed of.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> More later as we progress from off the leash in the house to
>> >>>> partial freedom, and all the usual breaking in. Oh, what a beautiful
>> day!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks to all of you who encouraged me not to judge all guides on
>> >>>> my first bad experience with Scout. Although he was truly loved, I
>> >>>> am sure he is happy as the Disney dog and family friend he always
>> >>>> wanted to
>> >>> be.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wishing all of you the best this holiday season!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Daniel and his new love, Cass
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Daniel Sweeney
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Lakewood, CO
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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