[nagdu] Sugar taking turn for worst...

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Fri Dec 28 04:30:58 UTC 2012


 HI i'm so sorry to hear about your dog. i wish you all the best  with your future dog.

On Dec 26, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Tami Jarvis wrote:

> Oh, Bunny! I am so, so sorry. I am glad Sugar can be at home with you and all his loves when it is time to cross the Rainbow Bridge. It hurts so much, even when you know it is time.
> 
> Best in finding a new dog. Yes, poodles are awesome. /smile/
> 
> Our thoughts and hearts will be with you.
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 12/26/2012 04:34 PM, Bunny Davidson wrote:
>> 
>> HI all,
>> sadly i spent Christmas day at vet hospital in mass. with my boy sugar ray...
>> his cancer is taking him away from me quicker then i'd like but he's been with
>> me a month longer then i expected...we are getting a foot n a half of snow tonight
>> and tomorrow, i have house call with vet to come friday afternoon and put sugar to sleep.
>> he is barely eating and has had such horrid reactions to the medicines, now the cancer
>> is in his lungs and he's got a heart murmur...
>> 
>> I saw the posts about standard poodle guide dogs, my first service dog was a std poodle
>> because of the non-allergic factor and they are way smart dogs.
>>  RIP Suzy Q.
>> 
>> I have made contact in last month or so with several rescues and breeders seeking to adopt a young adult
>> dog who i can train for service work....guess God answered part of my prayers anyways cause today at 1130 a
>> beautiful grand champion silver standard poodle boy of 3 years old was brought here by a breeder / show person
>> who wanted him to have a pet home cause she 'finished' him in ring and had enough offspring by him...I am going to
>> have him neutered and begin working with him after my sugar passes.
>> 
>> I have had standard's as pets/show dogs since i was a child, my grandfather raised them and i had my 'own' for a 1st bday gift from him,
>> her name was boodie and she lived to be 19.5 years old...i had her 'my whole life' at that point.
>> as an adult i did some breeding/showing of stds prior to my accident...since then i could'nt groom them myself
>> so as they passed of old age i got boxers instead, now each and every boxer has gotten cancer and not made it
>> to it's 10th birthday.
>> 
>> I hope you are all doing well through the holidays and into the new year.  this is the 2nd christmas in a row i'm putting a dog to sleep with cancer, last year Christmas day it was big boy...my big white boxer boy-pet, now my service dog Sugar ray wont make it to new years.
>> please keep us in prayers and warm thoughts, its very sad here for me, my dogs are my world.
>> blessings to all,
>> bunny
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: sparklylicious at gmail.com
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:46:42 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re:  Princess Update
>>> 
>>> Tami,
>>> I'm not really sure if Princess has siblings lol. she's almost 3 and there
>>> were two other poodles at training with us last year and they were both
>>> siblings. I wish I knew her siblings and got to talk to her puppy raiser,
>>> would have loved to hear all the cute stories and see the adorable pics of
>>> Princess when she was little *smile*.
>>> hannah
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chantel Cuddemi
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:42 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update
>>> 
>>> Tami,
>>> 
>>> Princess and Motley are not siblings.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:37 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update
>>> 
>>> That's right! Isn't Motley a sibling of Princess? Gary's Bogart is also a
>>> poodle... Larry's Holly is a pretty poodley doodle. /smile/ Have I forgotten
>>> anyone else? /lol/ For a long time, I think I was the only poodle guide user
>>> on the list. It's great to see all the new poodle guide users coming along!
>>> 
>>> Tami
>>> 
>>> On 12/18/2012 02:12 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>>>> Tami,
>>>> 
>>>> Your girl isn't the only poodle on the list! My Motley is a standard
>>> poodle
>>>> too!
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:05 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Poodles WAS Re: Princess Update
>>>> 
>>>> John and Larry,
>>>> 
>>>> Yup! I am super happy with my poodle! She is, as someone has already
>>>> mentioned, high maintenance, both in grooming and energy and
>>>> temperament. But she is also an absolute delight to have around, and
>>>> the nonshedding around the house is a plus. On the job, she is safety
>>>> conscious, clever, still jittery at times like a prancing Arabian horse.
>>>> /lol/
>>>> 
>>>> I looked into the breed because of my ex-husband's allergies. Then I
>>>> divorced the allergies and got a poodle anyway. /smile/ So I can't
>>>> speak from experience about handling the poodle as someone who needs
>>>> that breed for allergies of my own.
>>>> 
>>>> Main considerations, as I can see them, in getting a poodle guide
>>>> include the cost of grooming (ouch!) and the super high energy and
>>>> high alert temperament. How much you will pay for grooming depends on
>>>> where you live, as will how often you need to take your poodle to the
>>> groomer.
>>>> People seem to settle in at once every 4 to 8 weeks, although a few
>>>> daring souls go 12 weeks between grooming. I go longer in winter; but
>>>> after about 8 weeks, that luxuriant black wool of hers gets out of hand!
>>>> /lol/
>>>> 
>>>> It seems that as the training programs have become more experienced
>>>> with the wild woolly ones, they've learned to adapt to the temperament
>>>> and teach their grads how to do so. So one adaptation I learned to use
>>>> that I now hear program grads with poodles talking about is allowing
>>>> the poodle to find an out of the way place where it can watch what is
>>>> going on on the bus or in the restaurant, etc. I tried training my
>>>> girl to be in a nice, neat, still ball at first, and that did not
>>>> work! She would get too jumpy. Then I discovered that if she could
>>>> face the bus door or the main part of the restaurant where things were
>>>> happening, then she would be just fine. So that's what we do, and we
>>>> have learned ways to keep her out of the way of being stepped on.
>>>> /smile/
>>>> 
>>>> That's about all I can think of that's useful for now.
>>>> 
>>>> Welcome to the list, and keep us posted about what you find out and
>>>> decide to do!
>>>> 
>>>> Tami
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/18/2012 01:21 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>> you are right Hannah!  My experience with Holly was and still is great!
>>>>> So to HJohn, I don't think Pilot was any different than any other
>>>>> school I've heard about.  Sometime4s even though the schools try, for
>>>>> some reason a match doesn't work well.  I was told once when I signed
>>>>> up for the library in Australia out of Perth that labradoodles don't
>>>>> make good guides!  Well, I sure have a different experience and I
>>>>> think Tami with her poodle is pretty happy!  When the mmatch is good it
>>> works out great!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannah Chadwick"
>>>>> <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Princess Update
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello John,
>>>>>> Congratulations on your application process, and I hope you hear
>>>>>> from them soon. I had a pretty good experience while training with
>>>>>> Princess. We
>>> did
>>>>>> run in to a few incidents which I was told to give it time and
>>>>>> things will fall in place. I don't really know what went wrong or
>>>>>> where it started since she is my first guide and I did not know what
>>>>>> to expect.
>>>>>> I think each person's experience will vary, and every match will be
>>>>>> different. Although Princess's personality definitely matches with
>>>>>> mine, her speed did lack. She did make progress with my persistence,
>>>>>> but her attention span seemed to have gotten shorter. She is a
>>>>>> standard poodle and is definitely a people dog.
>>>>>> While going through this process of retiring her, I have also been
>>>>>> working on my application for Guide Dogs for the Blind in San
>>>>>> Rafael. So as of now, I am not planning on returning to Pilot Dogs.
>>>>>> please feel free to email me off list if you have further questions.
>>>>>> All the best, Hannah
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John
>>>>>> Russo
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:04 PM
>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Princess Update
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings Hannah,
>>>>>> I'm new to the list.  I read your message with some concern, because
>>>>>> I've never owned a guide dog, teach at a college and applied for
>>>>>> training at Pilot Dogs.  I'm curious, what breed is Princess?  Do
>>>>>> you feel Pilot trained her well, or was the training lacking in some
>>>>>> way?  Would you return to Pilot Dogs for training in the future?
>>>>>> I'd hate to have a bad first
>>>>>> experience.  Please reply.   John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hannah
>>>>>> Chadwick
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:55 PM
>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Princess Update
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> Happy holidays, and I hope each one of you is doing well.
>>>>>> As I mentioned a few weeks back, I planned on sending Princess back
>>>>>> to Pilot Dogs because she is not doing so well on my college campus
>>>>>> due to all
>>> the
>>>>>> distractions.
>>>>>> These past few weeks have been quite difficult because I've been
>>>>>> going back and forth with myself on whether I should keep her or
>>>>>> give her back.
>>>>>> However, her crate came over the weekend and now everything is set.
>>>>>> She is
>>>>>> flying via cargo on Thursday night back to Columbus, Ohio. I hope
>>>>>> she will get more training and perhaps she will do better in another
>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>> I know the next few days will be very difficult, especially after
>>>>>> she leaves because although she was not a very good guide, she was
>>>>>> always there and her presents definitely helped me through stressful
>>>>>> times.
>>>>>> This year has been one of the most difficult because I lost my
>>>>>> father just a few months back, and now I will lose Princess. I just
>>>>>> hope I will be ok, and I know that the only thing to help is time.
>>>>>> I want to take the time to thank each and every one of you for all
>>>>>> your support. You have helped me through all my past difficulties
>>>>>> with Princess, and you were very patient with me when I first got
>>>>>> her and had no idea what I was doing since I've never had a dog of
>>>>>> my own before. I have learned so much from the list and from each
>>>>>> one of you.
>>>>>> I know that I will continue to learn from all of you, and when I get
>>>>>> my next guide, I will have a lot of things to share. Happy holidays
>>>>>> to all, and may the next year bring you joy, and contentment.
>>>>>> All the best, Hannah
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami
>>>>>> Jarvis
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:59 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Princess WAS Re: second time is the charm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, Hannah. I am so sorry you had to make this decision. I wish both
>>>>>> you and Princess the best in the future.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You'll know when and whether you are ready for another dog.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/17/2012 01:51 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>>>> Congratulations on your new dog. I'm glad to hear everything went
>>>>>>> well at training. Your message has truly been delightful to read as
>>>>>>> I am sending my dog back this week and pondering on weather I
>>>>>>> should get another dog in the near future.
>>>>>>> Happy holidays to all!
>>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] second time is the charm
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am a graduate of the final class of 2012 at Guide Dogs for the
>>>>>>> Blind in Portland, Oregon.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have received my second guide, Cass, a 53lb., 23" high, yellow
>>>>>>> Labrador whose second birthday is coming up on December 23rd.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All I can say is the second time is the charm. She is everything my
>>>>>>> previous guide was not. She is confident, well-paced, and so well
>>>>>>> trained that it makes me want to cry.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We never even came close to an obstacle in training, whether day or
>>>>>>> night.
>>>>>>> She is perfectly attentive to me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We got home yesterday, and had our first outing this morning for a
>>>>>>> little mile walk. She made every curb, driveway, missed every bush
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>> mailbox.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have just received the best Christmas present I could have ever
>>>>>>> dreamed of.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> More later as we progress from off the leash in the house to
>>>>>>> partial freedom, and all the usual breaking in. Oh, what a beautiful
>>> day!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks to all of you who encouraged me not to judge all guides on
>>>>>>> my first bad experience with Scout. Although he was truly loved, I
>>>>>>> am sure he is happy as the Disney dog and family friend he always
>>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>> be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wishing all of you the best this holiday season!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Daniel and his new love, Cass
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Daniel Sweeney
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lakewood, CO
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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