[nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security Re:flyingwithPrincess for the first time

[Lisa belville]

No, you absolutely are not required to remove anything from the dog.  At the 
GDF they tell us to make a long leash and keep our dogs in a sit/stay while 
we hold onto the end of the leash and step through the detector.  Our 
leashes have metal rings and fasteners, so you make a fist with the metal 
loop clutched tightly.  When you step through the detector, you call your 
dog and the dog sets off the detector.  if you're holding the loop tightly 
enough, you shouldn't set it off, but it really depends.Then the nice, 
hopefully marginally English speaking TSA folks will wand and tactually 
inspect the dog and you if you alert.   Katy loves being petted like this, 
but it might be uncomfortable for some dogs.

Lisa

Hey, guess what! guess what! guess what! Aww crap, I forgot!
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security 
Re:flyingwithPrincess for the first time


>I was told by a trainer to absolutely never remove the dogs harness, collar 
>or leash
>
> For going through security, I agree with never removing the leash/collar, 
> but I do not agree with not removing the harness. Is it what people will 
> think of the dog, what people will do to the harness, or how the dog will 
> behave without the harness? Yes, Lexia usually interprets harness off as 
> play time, but she is also smart enough to know that the airport is no 
> place for messing around.
>    As far as putting on a different collar/leash, it is possible to switch 
> collars and leashes without giving your dog full freedom. I admit that 
> this may not be a good idea for a new guide dog team, but it should not be 
> a problem for a team that has been together for a long time.
>
> Also I knew of a handler and her guide  going through security after 911 
> and the person working the security told this handler to remove the dogs 
> harness and she did and the security people took the harness totally apart 
> and after she went  through security the security people gave her the 
> harness back in pieces. Too me that's unacceptable  and very wrong.
>
> And did your friend do anything about it? In that case, you fix the 
> problem by talking to the person who did it or a supervisor, not by just 
> avoiding it. Did the person take it apart to fit it in the bin or to 
> investigate it? Sometimes, no matter what we do, we cannot keep the 
> security from investigating things that way. Also, what exactly is 
> "apart"? The GDB harness that Lexia has can be put into three pieces that 
> are very easily put back together.
>
> Finally, what has disturbed me more than just what you are saying is how 
> you said it. I agree that everyone on the list has the right to express 
> his/her opinion, but no one is the "expert" on what to do and what not to 
> do. You could have put something along the lines of "I would" or "In my 
> opinion""
>
> Okay, I am going to go hide under my rock now.
>
> Nicole
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash for Security Re: 
> flyingwithPrincess for the first time
>
>
>> Hi Nicole,
>>
>> I was told by a trainer to absolutely never remove the dogs harness, 
>> collar
>> or leash.  Also I knew of a handler and her guide  going through security
>> after 911 and the person working the security told this handler to remove
>> the dogs harness and she did and the security people took the harness
>> totally apart and after she went  through security the security people 
>> gave
>> her the harness back in pieces. Too me that's unexceptable  and very 
>> wrong.
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lori and theGipper
>>
>>
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