[nagdu] NHD National History Day question

Mark and Colleen Richards markandcolleenrichards at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 2 03:11:42 UTC 2012


Hi Julie, Thanks so much for your reply and helpful information.  It will help me piece my timeline together.  Thanks, Brooke
 

> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:32:20 -0600
> From: julielj at neb.rr.com
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NHD National History Day question
> 
> Brook,
> 
> I think the time period you are most interested in is a bit before any 
> of us here got our first guide dogs! The Seeing Eye was the first guide 
> dog program in the United States, starting in 1928 if I'm remembering 
> correctly. Those first couple of years they were only placing a few 
> dogs a year. Even counting in the extremely rare person that might have 
> trained their own guide or service dog, and the people who received 
> trained dogs in other countries, there would have been an extremely 
> small number of dogs working with disabled people of any variety in the 
> 1930's.
> 
> The White Cane laws didn't come about until the 50's, again from my 
> memory. Some of those laws did include provisions for guide dogs. To 
> the best of my guessing, which I'm doing a lot of here, I'd say it 
> wasn't until the 70's when the average person knew what a guide dog 
> was. I think we can thank TV for this. Whether that is good or bad, is 
> an entirely different discussion! *smile* Of course it wasn't until 
> 1990 that we got the federal ADA which formally acknowledged the civil 
> rights of individuals with disabilities. Now we are 22 years post ADA 
> and I am still asked with some frequency why I have a dog in the store. 
> So I guess not everyone got the memo.
> 
> Sorry I can't help you more. I don't know anyone who has had guide dogs 
> as long back as the 1930's. I don't even know someone who knows someone 
> who knows someone who might be able to help you. If you have questions 
> about things in say the past 50 years I think we could help out a lot 
> more. *smile*
> 
> Best of luck on your project!
> Julie
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> On 2/1/2012 6:05 PM, Steven Johnson wrote:
> > It Could have been a legitimate detention..depends on the situation,
> > wheteher the dog was trained to perform specific tasks or not....very
> > subjective. I am sure we all have stories regarding access. Although a dog
> > can be owner-trained, this does not mean this dog was functioning as a dog
> > guide. However, it also doesn't mean that it wasn't performing some other
> > functional service such as seizure detection, diabetic alert or the like.
> >
> > It is very tricky, and to get the inside scoop on your state's laws, I would
> > encourage you to go to www.nagdu.org and send NAGDU president an email.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Of Mark and Colleen Richards
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:06 PM
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> > Subject: [nagdu] NHD National History Day question
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> > Hello! My name is Brooke Richards and I am preparing for National History
> > Day being held in Boise, Idaho March 10th. My topic is on service animals
> > and how they have reformed society. I am working on the laws right now.
> > My older brother shared an experience that he witnessed this last week while
> > entering a Walmart store in Provo, Utah. There was a lady in her 40's who
> > was being detained at the entrance of the store from entering by what looked
> > to be a manager and two employees because her yellow lab did not have on a
> > service vest. She appeared to have a cane with her. I looked up the Utah
> > code and from my understanding, by law this woman should have been able to
> > enter the store if the dog did not have on a service vest. With the
> > current laws passed, have any of you had similar experiences you would share
> > that I can use in my presentation and would have permission to include your
> > name in my bibliography. Thank you for your help!Ms. Brooke Richards
> >
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