[nagdu] NHD National History Day question

Mark and Colleen Richards markandcolleenrichards at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 2 04:47:32 UTC 2012


Thank you Cindy!  That's helpful.  Brooke
 

> From: cindyray at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:36:31 -0600
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NHD National History Day question
> 
> The Model White Cane law 
> was passed at the NFB Convention in Louisville in 1966; my DH says that it was then passed in Iowa in 1967. There is record of that at the NFB, maybe even on the web site.
> 
> Cindy
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Mark and Colleen Richards wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi Julie, Thanks so much for your reply and helpful information. It will help me piece my timeline together. Thanks, Brooke
> > 
> > 
> >> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:32:20 -0600
> >> From: julielj at neb.rr.com
> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NHD National History Day question
> >> 
> >> Brook,
> >> 
> >> I think the time period you are most interested in is a bit before any 
> >> of us here got our first guide dogs! The Seeing Eye was the first guide 
> >> dog program in the United States, starting in 1928 if I'm remembering 
> >> correctly. Those first couple of years they were only placing a few 
> >> dogs a year. Even counting in the extremely rare person that might have 
> >> trained their own guide or service dog, and the people who received 
> >> trained dogs in other countries, there would have been an extremely 
> >> small number of dogs working with disabled people of any variety in the 
> >> 1930's.
> >> 
> >> The White Cane laws didn't come about until the 50's, again from my 
> >> memory. Some of those laws did include provisions for guide dogs. To 
> >> the best of my guessing, which I'm doing a lot of here, I'd say it 
> >> wasn't until the 70's when the average person knew what a guide dog 
> >> was. I think we can thank TV for this. Whether that is good or bad, is 
> >> an entirely different discussion! *smile* Of course it wasn't until 
> >> 1990 that we got the federal ADA which formally acknowledged the civil 
> >> rights of individuals with disabilities. Now we are 22 years post ADA 
> >> and I am still asked with some frequency why I have a dog in the store. 
> >> So I guess not everyone got the memo.
> >> 
> >> Sorry I can't help you more. I don't know anyone who has had guide dogs 
> >> as long back as the 1930's. I don't even know someone who knows someone 
> >> who knows someone who might be able to help you. If you have questions 
> >> about things in say the past 50 years I think we could help out a lot 
> >> more. *smile*
> >> 
> >> Best of luck on your project!
> >> Julie
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 2/1/2012 6:05 PM, Steven Johnson wrote:
> >>> It Could have been a legitimate detention..depends on the situation,
> >>> wheteher the dog was trained to perform specific tasks or not....very
> >>> subjective. I am sure we all have stories regarding access. Although a dog
> >>> can be owner-trained, this does not mean this dog was functioning as a dog
> >>> guide. However, it also doesn't mean that it wasn't performing some other
> >>> functional service such as seizure detection, diabetic alert or the like.
> >>> 
> >>> It is very tricky, and to get the inside scoop on your state's laws, I would
> >>> encourage you to go to www.nagdu.org and send NAGDU president an email.
> >>> 
> >>> Steve
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> >>> Of Mark and Colleen Richards
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:06 PM
> >>> To: NAGDU
> >>> Subject: [nagdu] NHD National History Day question
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Hello! My name is Brooke Richards and I am preparing for National History
> >>> Day being held in Boise, Idaho March 10th. My topic is on service animals
> >>> and how they have reformed society. I am working on the laws right now.
> >>> My older brother shared an experience that he witnessed this last week while
> >>> entering a Walmart store in Provo, Utah. There was a lady in her 40's who
> >>> was being detained at the entrance of the store from entering by what looked
> >>> to be a manager and two employees because her yellow lab did not have on a
> >>> service vest. She appeared to have a cane with her. I looked up the Utah
> >>> code and from my understanding, by law this woman should have been able to
> >>> enter the store if the dog did not have on a service vest. With the
> >>> current laws passed, have any of you had similar experiences you would share
> >>> that I can use in my presentation and would have permission to include your
> >>> name in my bibliography. Thank you for your help!Ms. Brooke Richards
> >>> 
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