[nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness and Leash forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time

Thu Feb 2 20:41:51 UTC 2012

yep your right, and hearing your voice I suspect makes the pup feel a
little better for the few seconds of discomfort.  Yes I flew right after
911 too and didn't have trouble with the dog, but they sure wanted my
belongings checked, evaluated and maybe taken away.

I have further stories about how the confusion between partial, legally
blind and totally blind comfusion in the sighted community have affected
me in employment, on Ham Radio and life in general but I'm not sharing
personal stuff on list.  Glad to see the topic sparked interest and we
all tought each other a few things. Diplomatic and non diplomatic, that
is another topic for another list.  Before someone questions another
person's diplomatic skills they better have proof they are better at it.

Bobby and Prince

From:	"Melissa Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
To:	"NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide
            Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Date:	02/02/2012 02:33 PM
Subject:	Re: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness
            andLeash	forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first
            time
Sent by:	nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org

Very interesting.
I am just glad that GDF took my class to the airport and we went through
the
security line.
My dog and I have flown many times since the end of class.
She still doesn't care for the tsa officer feeling on her and underneath
her
harness.
Especially if they are cold and seem fearful of her.

Blessings,
 Warmly,
Melissa green
Sometimes Life brings you full circle to a place you've been before just
to
show you how much you've grown.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Harris" <Harris.Robert at epamail.epa.gov>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness andLeash
forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time

> In Response to your inquiry.
> Thank you for contacting TSA with your questions and concerns about
> airport security
> checkpoint screening for travelers with disabilities and medical
> conditions.
> Specifically, you were concerned about screening for passengers who
have
> service dogs.
> If a passenger has a service dog due to a disability or medical
> condition, both the
> passenger and the dog will be screened. The passenger should inform a
> security officer
> that the dog is a service animal and not a pet and the dog should be
> wearing gear (a
> harness, vest, etc.) to indicate that it is a service animal.
> Passengers are expected to maintain control of their animals by
holding
> onto the leash
> throughout the screening process and they should not be separated from
> their dogs by TSA
> personnel.
> Passenger with service dogs will be screened either by a metal
detector
> or thorough
> pat-down. If the passenger and service animal are screened by a metal
> detector, they can
> proceed one of three ways:
> • The passenger can walk through first with the dog following
> behind on its
> leash.
> • The dog can walk through first on its leash with the
> passenger following
> behind.
> • The passenger and dog can walk through at the same time.
> If the passenger and the dog walk through at the same time and the
metal
> detector
> alarms, both the passenger and dog are subject to additional
screening,
> including a
> thorough pat-down.  If the passenger and dog walk through separately,
> only the party
> that alarms the metal detector will receive additional screening. It
is
> very important
> that the passenger not make contact with the dog (other than holding
the
> leash) until
> the dog has been cleared and inspected by an officer.
> If a pat-down is required in order to complete screening:
> • The pat-down should be conducted by an officer of the same
> gender.
> Sometimes, passengers must wait for an officer of the same gender to
> become available.
> • The passenger can request a private screening at any time
> and a private
> screening should be offered when the officer must pat-down sensitive
> areas. During a
> private screening, another TSA employee will also be present and the
> passenger may be
> accompanied by a companion of his or her choosing.
> • A passenger may ask for a chair if he or she needs to sit
> down.
> • The passenger should inform an officer of any difficulty
> raising his or her
> arms, remaining in the position required for a pat-down, or any areas
of
> the body that
> are painful when touched.
> • A passenger should not be asked to remove or lift any
> article of clothing
> to reveal a sensitive body area.
> In addition to the pat-down, TSA may use technology to test for traces
> of explosive
> material. If explosive material is detected, the passenger will have
to
> undergo
> additional screening.
> Regardless of how the passenger and dog proceed through metal
detector,
> the dog will
> receive additional screening. The officer will physically inspect the
> dog and the dog’s
> belongings (collar, harness, leash, backpack, vest, etc.) in order to
> resolve the alarm.
> Although the dog’s harness will not be removed, it and other items
that
> he or she may be
> carrying such as a backpack are subject to screening.
> If a passenger leaves the secure side of the airport to relieve his or
> her dog, the
> passenger and dog will need to undergo the screening process again.
When
> he or she
> returns to the security checkpoint, he or she can ask to move to the
> front of the
> screening line.
> Medication for service animals is permitted through security
checkpoints
> once it has
> undergone X-ray or visual inspection screening. All liquids, gels, or
> aerosols that
> exceed 3.4 ounces will  receive additional screening. Passengers
should
> tell an officer
> in advance if there are medically necessary liquids for the service
dog
> that need to be
> screened, and these should be separated from other items in the
> passenger’s carry-on.
> A companion, assistant, or family member may accompany a passenger to
> assist him or her
> during any private or public screening. After providing this
assistance,
> the companion,
> assistant, or family member will need to be rescreened. The passenger
> should inform the
> officer of his or her need for assistance before the screening process
> begins.
> If a passenger has concerns about his or her screening, he or she
should
> ask to speak
> with a supervisor while at the checkpoint.  Passengers also can report
> concerns by
> contacting TSA’s Disability and Multicultural Division at
> TSA.ODPO at tsa.dhs.gov or:
> Transportation Security Administration
> Disability and Multicultural Division
> 601 South 12th Street
> Arlington, VA  20598
>
> TSA encourages passengers with disabilities or medical conditions to
> arrive at the
> airport early and to visit
> www.tsa.gov
> for more information before they fly.
> TSA Cares
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>            Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 02/02/2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness and Leash
>            forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
> Sent by: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>
>
>
> When I was in training to get Lexia in 2007, GDB took the entire class
> to
> the airport near the end of training to practice. They told us that we
> would
> set off the metal detector. They did not tell us to take off the
harness
> or
> use a leash that did not have metal. This was my own idea.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash
> forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
>
>
>> hi, Larry,
>> I guess it depends on the trainers/instructors at Pilot because twice
> when
>> I was in training there, they didn't recommend the harness be removed
> nor
>> the dog be called through the metal detector.
>> I went through with both guides and then was wanded.
>> I'm sure same thing happens with other schools as well too.
>> Can others who go through  the other guide dog schools let me know
> more on
>> this one, please?
>> Thank you.
>> Bibi
>>
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