[nagdu] Test Walk?

Doug Parisian eggmann at shaw.ca
Fri Feb 3 16:16:50 UTC 2012 

Lisa, in this strange wacky world, one needs always to be prepared.

When I got my first beastie way back in 1977, we had a rule on our Winnipeg 
transit requiring that all dogs be muzzled.  I had a paw in having that 
policy repealed by about 1980.  Fortunately, most passengers weren't aware 
of this weirdness and the majority of drivers knew me anyway.  TSE gave us 
figure eight muzzles and one can do the same fake with the leash.  My 
regular route bus drivers (who my dog got to know by the way) would warn me 
if an inspector was lurking at a particular stop so then I'd do the fake 
leash trick until we got past the obstruction.

I often would purposefully not comply unless asked to do so by those drivers 
on my irregular routs who insisted on working to rule so I did in fact carry 
the muzzle for such cases.

Nowadays, the only reason I might use a muzzle would be in cases where one 
of my dogs would snatch whatever food was on the floor of a food court 
quicker than lightning.  Miss Payton absolutely hated the muzzle so the 
problem was cured; any twitching I noticed which made me suspicious of food 
snatching resulted in immediate application of the muzzle.  It sure did cut 
down on the number of leash corrections and the inevitable public flap about 
"you're beating your dog" nonsense etc etc.

Too bad one couldn't muzzle some of the interferers out there.

Doug: Muzzle me and I'll just talk between my teeth!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa belville" <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Test Walk?


> wow.  Who is asked to muzzle their guide dog these days?  I mean, does 
> that happen often enough that you guys need to learn to make a muzzle?
>
>
> I'd like an order of ambition, & a side of focus, and a large coffee. And 
> could you super size that please? It really needs to last for the rest of 
> the day.
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Test Walk?
>
>
>> Yah, we took the bus.  We also practiced muzzling our dogs with our 
>> leashes. Just in case we ever were asked to.  I never have been but I 
>> know how.  We also have to go into a store and buy something.  This is to 
>> see if you can keep your dog from snatching something off the shelves and 
>> scarfing it up! Actually, sence I always take the bus and walk, it was 
>> great!  They gave us the route the night before so we could go over it. 
>> If we had unexpected probblems like that bum that came out of nowhere or 
>> getting disoriented in the store, the trainer would help us.  But for the 
>> route and normal stuff they could talk to us but not give us any 
>> information.  They also tested us with a trainer that we hadn't worked 
>> with so that they could sort of eliminate any prejudices that your normal 
>> trainer might have.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Test Walk?
>>
>>
>>> But it sounds like the Pilot folks are taking the city bus, which imho 
>>> is
>>> more challenging than a bunch of students being driven downtown in the
>>> school's bus.  Actually, given the number of times a bus has passed me 
>>> by,
>>> or the driver has forgotten to announce my stop, it could be a lot more
>>> challenging.  But maybe the Columbus bus drivers are used to Pilot
>>> students waiting at that stop, and don't just breeze on by.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>> GDB kind of does that. We had several bus to lounge routes. The bus 
>>>> would
>>>> park a few blocks from the lounge, and we would get out one or two at a
>>>> time
>>>> (I cannot remember which) and walk to the lounge. We all started from 
>>>> the
>>>> same departure point, though. The trainers would hide themselves along 
>>>> the
>>>> route to watch us and distract our dogs. The dog distraction thing did 
>>>> not
>>>> usually work, though, because, by that time, we were used to the 
>>>> trainers
>>>> trying to distract our dogs. It was actually a lot of fun. Sometimes, 
>>>> if
>>>> one
>>>> dog team left the bus not long after another, the second team would try 
>>>> to
>>>> catch up and over take the team ahead of them. There were a couple of 
>>>> dogs
>>>> in the class who enjoyed walking fast.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Test Walk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>
>>>>> When I went to Leader to train with Leo my German Shepherd back in 
>>>>> 2005,
>>>>> the trainers would take us out in the mini bus and drive around for a
>>>>> while
>>>>> and then the trainer would drop   two students and their dogs off at
>>>>> different locations and tell us where were getting dropped off at. And
>>>>> the
>>>>> trainer would tell us to find our way back to the training center. And
>>>>> the
>>>>> trainers would be out and about watching us. This was called our 
>>>>> Mystery
>>>>> walk.  The trainers wanted to see how well the student and dog worked
>>>>> together on their own and that the student and dog are safe when out
>>>>> walking.  we could ask for directions if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really enjoyed this drop off mystery walk  that I had to do. It 
>>>>> showed
>>>>> to
>>>>> the trainers that I could safely work and trust in my dog when out and
>>>>> about
>>>>> walking and that if I needed help because  of not being sure of where
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> at
>>>>> that I can ask for some assistance and directions from someone if I
>>>>> needed
>>>>> to.  I have to say my dog and I and the other student and her dog 
>>>>> that
>>>>> I
>>>>> was with, we both found are way back to the training center just
>>>>> figureing
>>>>> out where were at together and working as a team.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I went to train with Gipp last December, the trainers were no
>>>>> longer
>>>>> dropping students and their dogs off and telling them to find their 
>>>>> way
>>>>> back to the training center. Take care.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori and theGipper
>>>>>
>>>>>
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