[nagdu] Accurate Information from the TSARe: GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness and LeashforSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time

Fri Feb 3 23:35:29 UTC 2012

In the law, if your dog does damage, you are responsible, I think, no matter where you are. I was dismissed from a park once because I didn't have control of my dog for a few seconds. The same would be true in such a situation.

Cindy

On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Robert Harris wrote:

> What about the FAA Marion: and who is responsible if that dog bites or
> damages somebody/something?  The way you say it, I could drive to the
> airport, stop at a pound, grab myself a nice looking any kind dog and go
> jump on a plane, no shots, no service dog proof until the dog goes nuts
> and somebody is hurt, then what?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:	"Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To:	"NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide
>            Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date:	02/03/2012 04:02 PM
> Subject:	[nagdu] Accurate Information from the TSARe: GDB and
>            Airports Re: Removing Harness and
>            LeashforSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
> Sent by:	nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> 
> 
> 
> Dear All,
>    I read the message that was copied to the list from TSA Cares. This
> message states, "the dog should be
> wearing gear (a
> harness, vest, etc.) to indicate that it is a service animal." I
> contacted
> my colleague who spoke to the NAGDU Seminar at last year's meeting,
> Jeremy
> Buzzell, Senior Policy Advisor for TSA's Office of Disability Policy &
> Outreach,   who advised me that this message is not completely accurate.
> 
> This statement seems to indicate that the wearing of a harness or some
> other
> specific gear to indicate it is a service animal is a requirement of the
> 
> TSA. Though the TSA recommends that the service dog wear a harness or
> some
> other identification, it is not required nor a prerequisite for access.
> 
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
> National Federation of the Blind
> 813-626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Harris" <Harris.Robert at epamail.epa.gov>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness and
> LeashforSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
> 
> 
>> In Response to your inquiry.
>> Thank you for contacting TSA with your questions and concerns about
>> airport security
>> checkpoint screening for travelers with disabilities and medical
>> conditions.
>> Specifically, you were concerned about screening for passengers who
> have
>> service dogs.
>> If a passenger has a service dog due to a disability or medical
>> condition, both the
>> passenger and the dog will be screened. The passenger should inform a
>> security officer
>> that the dog is a service animal and not a pet and the dog should be
>> wearing gear (a
>> harness, vest, etc.) to indicate that it is a service animal.
>> Passengers are expected to maintain control of their animals by
> holding
>> onto the leash
>> throughout the screening process and they should not be separated from
>> their dogs by TSA
>> personnel.
>> Passenger with service dogs will be screened either by a metal
> detector
>> or thorough
>> pat-down. If the passenger and service animal are screened by a metal
>> detector, they can
>> proceed one of three ways:
>> • The passenger can walk through first with the dog following
>> behind on its
>> leash.
>> • The dog can walk through first on its leash with the
>> passenger following
>> behind.
>> • The passenger and dog can walk through at the same time.
>> If the passenger and the dog walk through at the same time and the
> metal
>> detector
>> alarms, both the passenger and dog are subject to additional
> screening,
>> including a
>> thorough pat-down.  If the passenger and dog walk through separately,
>> only the party
>> that alarms the metal detector will receive additional screening. It
> is
>> very important
>> that the passenger not make contact with the dog (other than holding
> the
>> leash) until
>> the dog has been cleared and inspected by an officer.
>> If a pat-down is required in order to complete screening:
>> • The pat-down should be conducted by an officer of the same
>> gender.
>> Sometimes, passengers must wait for an officer of the same gender to
>> become available.
>> • The passenger can request a private screening at any time
>> and a private
>> screening should be offered when the officer must pat-down sensitive
>> areas. During a
>> private screening, another TSA employee will also be present and the
>> passenger may be
>> accompanied by a companion of his or her choosing.
>> • A passenger may ask for a chair if he or she needs to sit
>> down.
>> • The passenger should inform an officer of any difficulty
>> raising his or her
>> arms, remaining in the position required for a pat-down, or any areas
> of
>> the body that
>> are painful when touched.
>> • A passenger should not be asked to remove or lift any
>> article of clothing
>> to reveal a sensitive body area.
>> In addition to the pat-down, TSA may use technology to test for traces
>> of explosive
>> material. If explosive material is detected, the passenger will have
> to
>> undergo
>> additional screening.
>> Regardless of how the passenger and dog proceed through metal
> detector,
>> the dog will
>> receive additional screening. The officer will physically inspect the
>> dog and the dog’s
>> belongings (collar, harness, leash, backpack, vest, etc.) in order to
>> resolve the alarm.
>> Although the dog’s harness will not be removed, it and other items
> that
>> he or she may be
>> carrying such as a backpack are subject to screening.
>> If a passenger leaves the secure side of the airport to relieve his or
>> her dog, the
>> passenger and dog will need to undergo the screening process again.
> When
>> he or she
>> returns to the security checkpoint, he or she can ask to move to the
>> front of the
>> screening line.
>> Medication for service animals is permitted through security
> checkpoints
>> once it has
>> undergone X-ray or visual inspection screening. All liquids, gels, or
>> aerosols that
>> exceed 3.4 ounces will  receive additional screening. Passengers
> should
>> tell an officer
>> in advance if there are medically necessary liquids for the service
> dog
>> that need to be
>> screened, and these should be separated from other items in the
>> passenger’s carry-on.
>> A companion, assistant, or family member may accompany a passenger to
>> assist him or her
>> during any private or public screening. After providing this
> assistance,
>> the companion,
>> assistant, or family member will need to be rescreened. The passenger
>> should inform the
>> officer of his or her need for assistance before the screening process
>> begins.
>> If a passenger has concerns about his or her screening, he or she
> should
>> ask to speak
>> with a supervisor while at the checkpoint.  Passengers also can report
>> concerns by
>> contacting TSA’s Disability and Multicultural Division at
>> TSA.ODPO at tsa.dhs.gov or:
>> Transportation Security Administration
>> Disability and Multicultural Division
>> 601 South 12th Street
>> Arlington, VA  20598
>> 
>> TSA encourages passengers with disabilities or medical conditions to
>> arrive at the
>> airport early and to visit
>> www.tsa.gov
>> for more information before they fly.
>> TSA Cares
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>           Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 02/02/2012 12:12 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] GDB and Airports Re: Removing Harness and Leash
>>           forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
>> Sent by: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I was in training to get Lexia in 2007, GDB took the entire class
>> to
>> the airport near the end of training to practice. They told us that we
>> would
>> set off the metal detector. They did not tell us to take off the
> harness
>> or
>> use a leash that did not have metal. This was my own idea.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Removing Harness and Leash
>> forSecurityRe:flyingwithPrincess for the first time
>> 
>> 
>>> hi, Larry,
>>> I guess it depends on the trainers/instructors at Pilot because twice
>> when
>>> I was in training there, they didn't recommend the harness be removed
>> nor
>>> the dog be called through the metal detector.
>>> I went through with both guides and then was wanded.
>>> I'm sure same thing happens with other schools as well too.
>>> Can others who go through  the other guide dog schools let me know
>> more on
>>> this one, please?
>>> Thank you.
>>> Bibi
>>> 
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