[nagdu] Pilot in 1987

Sat Feb 4 00:19:15 UTC 2012

I think Broad is better as well.  That thing is aptly named when it goes 
through downtown at High!  I thaught I was crossing 2 streerts!  The first 
time Holly and I crossed broad, I had to listen to High because I was 
beginning to worry that were crossing diagonally or something!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
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> I'll take rich and long
>
>
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> Think I'd spend a lot of time on Broad Street!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisa belville" <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
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>
>> Ah, A dirty mind is a joy forever.
>>
>>
>> I'd like an order of ambition, & a side of focus, and a large coffee. And
>> could you super size that please? It really needs to last for the rest of
>> the day.
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pilot in 1987
>>
>>
>>> My, the streets in Columbus have wonderful names!  Broad, High, Gay,
>>> Rich,
>>> and Long!
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> This discussion of the test/achievement walk at Pilot brings back
>>>> memories.
>>>> I was there twice in 1987 and can still do that walk in my head. <grin>
>>>> Of
>>>> course I occasionally find myself on those very streets these days but
>>>> don't
>>>> go downtown much as I once did. For those who don't know, I live in
>>>> Columbus
>>>> but work for GDF remotely.
>>>>
>>>> They may have changed things but as I recall, the Pilot leash is the
>>>> only
>>>> one with the extra snaps needed to turn it into a muzzle of sorts.
>>>> Because
>>>> the leashes I'm familiar with from there had only a snap under the chin
>>>> to
>>>> close the loop of the muzzle, it was easy for the dog to break. My 
>>>> first
>>>> dog
>>>> routinely broke hers, unsnapping the muzzle part then chewing it
>>>> viciously.
>>>> Many a time I got off a bus with half a leash in my right hand.
>>>>
>>>> As for muzzling on the buses, prior to the ADA, that was a requirement
>>>> of
>>>> the Central Ohio Transit Authority that all dogs in training be 
>>>> muzzled.
>>>> Silly, yes, but there you go. That requirement is no longer in place as
>>>> I
>>>> understand it.
>>>>
>>>> As for the test walk, as we knew it, the walk was designed to not only
>>>> show
>>>> you that you could work alone with your dog over a route, but to show
>>>> the
>>>> staff how you dealt with stress.
>>>>
>>>> I think there were merits to it but the pressure the instructors in my
>>>> classes put on people was a bit much. They were all former military and
>>>> ran
>>>> it like a drill, not exactly helpful. I hear things have changed a lot
>>>> and
>>>> I
>>>> like the new name of the walk.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, remembering the streets was important as you needed to know about
>>>> where
>>>> to turn for the bus stops. People could use whatever method they wanted
>>>> to
>>>> remember the route. The real test was if you could understand the
>>>> differences between streets and alleys on the route, keep track of 
>>>> where
>>>> you
>>>> were and judge your crossings.
>>>>
>>>> I failed my first test walk because I didn't catch my dog veering right
>>>> during a wide crossing and walking down the block, but on the street,
>>>> not
>>>> the sidewalk, and right toward a bus. I caught it but not in time to
>>>> satisfy
>>>> the instructor who was judging my walk. For you Pilot folks, it was Jay
>>>> Gray. We laugh about it today. Not so much back then.
>>>>
>>>> We did go into the old Woolworth store along the route and had to
>>>> purchase
>>>> something. I think I bought candbars. I still think this is an 
>>>> excellent
>>>> exercise.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the route we took back in 1987. I'd be curious to hear from
>>>> recent
>>>> grads if it's the same.
>>>>
>>>> Leave the gate near the relief area at Pilot. You're on Grubb Street.
>>>> Turn
>>>> right and go to the corner of Grubb and Town streets.
>>>>
>>>> At the down curb, turn right and walk down Town street with the traffic
>>>> on
>>>> your left. At the next corner, which is Town and Skidmore, turn right
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The next cross street is Rich Street. Cross here and at the up curb,
>>>> turn
>>>> right and walk maybe 10 feet to the bus stop on Rich street.
>>>>
>>>> Take the Number 10 bus and ask the driver to let you know when they get
>>>> to
>>>> Long and High.
>>>>
>>>> The nice thing about Columbus is that it's laid out in a grid pattern 
>>>> in
>>>> the
>>>> downtown and Pilot Dogs area and the grid runs pretty much true
>>>> north/south.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our buses now have the automatic stop announcements but it's been my
>>>> experience that drivers tend to turn them off or way down so asking is
>>>> prudent..
>>>>
>>>> You get off the bus at Long and High. Back then it was just before Long
>>>> Street so you'd turn left once off the bus and walk up to the corner
>>>> with
>>>> the traffic on your left. Then you'd turn left again to cross High
>>>> street.
>>>>
>>>> At the up curb, you'd turn left, walking the way you'd come on the bus,
>>>> south. You would next cross Gay Street, Broad Street and on the up curb
>>>> of
>>>> Broad Street, turn left and cross High street again. This is where I
>>>> screwed
>>>> up. <grin>
>>>>
>>>> On the up curb of Broad and High, turn right and walk along a very wide
>>>> sidewalk in front of the Ohio State House. The next street you come to
>>>> is
>>>> State Street.
>>>>
>>>> Cross State and at the up curb, turn right to cross High Street yet
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> On the up curb, turn left to head south on High Street. Along this 
>>>> block
>>>> was
>>>> where the Woolworth store was, about halfway down. Since the dogs back
>>>> in
>>>> my
>>>> classes didn't have suggestive turn commands or find commands, you had
>>>> to
>>>> know where the door was and give a right turn command exactly there or
>>>> the
>>>> dog would turn into windows. You could ask for help from people but you
>>>> were
>>>> supposed to do it yourself. The instructor judging your walk would not
>>>> talk
>>>> to you at all unless you were in danger. You didn't get dinged for
>>>> missing
>>>> the door though or no one would have gone home with a dog. <grin>
>>>>
>>>> We'd been in this store before, several times so we had ideas of where
>>>> it
>>>> was along the block.
>>>>
>>>> Once you'd purchased your item, you left the store and turned right to
>>>> continue down the block to the corner of Town and High streets where 
>>>> you
>>>> turned right on the down curb.
>>>>
>>>> This street is where the bus stop is to go west on Town Street so you'd
>>>> walk
>>>> about halfway down the block, prior to the alley, and wait for the
>>>> Number
>>>> 10
>>>> bus.
>>>>
>>>> You would ask the driver to let you off at McDowell Street, which is 2
>>>> blocks shy of Pilot. This street has a light control.
>>>>
>>>> I want to say that the bus stop was just past McDowell, but I could be
>>>> wrong
>>>> on that one. At any rate, once at the down curb with Town Street in
>>>> front
>>>> of
>>>> you, cross town with McDowell on your left and turn right. You next
>>>> cross
>>>> Skidmore then continue to the corner of Town and Grubb where you turn
>>>> right
>>>> and head for the gate on your left along that block and you're done.
>>>>
>>>> Tired yet? <grin> It's really a very nice walk and I'd be curious to
>>>> know
>>>> where you all go now. Done right, the concept is a good one and sort of
>>>> mirrors what I think some of the O&M lessons are like at the National
>>>> NFB
>>>> centers, plus the dog of course.
>>>>
>>>> Jenine Stanley FSO-PA
>>>> U. S. Coast Guard Auxiliary Flotilla 18-06
>>>> Columbus, OH
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