[nagdu] Pilot in 1987

Mon Feb 6 17:45:47 UTC 2012

because Doug we expect a dog that is trained both in guide work and in basic obedience. If I didn't want either of that, I'd owner-train.
Because we get dogs to make our lives easier and if I have to put too much time energy and/or money into making a dog behave and do what I expected it would do, I have to wonder at what point do I throw in the towel.
Because sometimes you may get a dog with an undisclosed and/or unknown medical issue.  I think this is what happened with both of my dogs.  The first shed like there was no tomorrow, the second would get into these periods of rapid breathing.
With my second dog, I told the school even when I was in training that she seemed to lack stamina. Unfortunately I used the phrase "my old dog" in this discussion and they totally discounted what I was telling them.

I did mention the breathing to my vet who responded with "she looks fine to me".
It was only when my second dog retired and the people that adopted commented on her breathing that I was convinced that this wasn't all in my head.
Very rarely does a handler say "f** it, I'm going to not give a crap, I'll let my dog run wild".

Trying to work a dog that isn't up to the task can wear you out, physically and mentally.  It can make you question what you know to be true, because the schools would never give out a dog that isn't able to do the job?? Right??

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Parisian
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pilot in 1987

perhaps in many cases, too much blame is placed on the school for dog
failures.  How about the responsibility of the individual?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:36 AM
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> I'm on deserts list as well, and still on pilots mostly because they
> do know me, and because I'd only ahve to go for 2 weeks which is a
> plus for my situation. but I've sworn if this dog doesn't work from
> them I'm done with them and will move on.
> Jessica
>
> On 2/4/12, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>> Gosh Jessica, speaking just for myself, if I'd had that many bad matches
>> in such a short time, I'd be looking elsewhere for my next dog.  Once,
>> OK.
>>  Twice, ... well maybe.  Three times, I'm outa here.  It's too much work
>> to put in to keep losing it.  If I wanted that kind of aggravation, I'd
>> train my own, or something.
>> But that's me, and of course it's your choice to do what you think is
>> best
>> for you.
>> Dogs of the Desert has some poodles.  So does GDF, I think.  And the
>> place
>> in Canada where Gary went, if they take Yanks.  Even those set on a
>> poodle
>> have some choices.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> I was at pilot in october novemnber 2008, august 2009, and march 2010,
>>> in march 2010 I did not take home a dog because my frist dog decided
>>> wayne tasted good and I had just had a miscarage and went home not
>>> being able to take so much loss. Aug 2009 was when I got owen the
>>> boxer who was just to to much, and oct/nov 2008 was when I got rolo
>>> who I owuld still have she was my frist guide a chocolate lab, and I
>>> lost her because she developed health conditions and could no longer
>>> work including a skin problem wehre she'd get horrible sores and
>>> couldn't stand to wear her harness and other junk. I'm getting a
>>> poodle this time because I also found out i have allergies which I
>>> should have suspected from the beginning, and plus I've always wanted
>>> a poodle. I can't wait and really hope they get me in before the end
>>> of the year i'm hoping to go between now and june or between september
>>>  december, but I'll go whenever steve calls and says hey, we have a
>>> dog for you will you come to class.
>>> I'm curious, in all 3 classes i went to my call go to was on a
>>> wednesday morning each and every time, the first time it was about 3
>>> weeks before class, the second was about a week and a half before
>>> class and same for third time. Does steve always do incoming calls on
>>> Wednesdays? LOL.
>>> I think he might and so every wednesday I've been praying.. lol.
>>> Though I pray everyday for a call except Saturday and Sunday and I
>>> truely know that call could come at anytime if someone backs out or
>>> something like that.
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>> On 2/3/12, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I think some are named after folks like Rich and Gaye.  Others like
>>>> High
>>>> and
>>>> Broad probably are more descriptive.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pilot in 1987
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The names seem unusual to me. I wondered how the streets were named
>>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>> never asked anyone about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> sheila leigland
>>>>>
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