[nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes

Tue Feb 14 18:31:02 UTC 2012

Hello:

I have never had issues with Bailey urine or Bailey poop. His positions are as follows:

When standing, I refer to him as rectangular--the ground and his back are parallel and his front and back legs are parallel. When sitting, he is a right triangle, the hypotenuse of which is his back. When he urinates, he becomes a trapezoid. His back is slanted as though he is preparing to sit, but he urinates instead--I love that shape for some reason--it is very geometrically pleasing. I have never gotten urinated upon, nor has he taken it upon himself to target practice with anything nearby. When he poops, he forms the shape of a parabola with a negative leading coefficient and stands still. I have no compunctions about picking up poop--sometimes, on the rare occasions when his poop is the consistency of pudding, he will get some on the underside of his tail. Although I feel a bit exasperated, I have no problems using a soapy rag to clean it up. He does not travel when pooping, so I guess I've lucked out on the whole relieving behavior issue (save the occasional on-route pit stop). I wouldn't discount ever getting another male dog because of relieving issue--maybe those "horror" stories get blown out of proportion. For example, 9 out of 10 people never have issues, but it's the 1 out of 10 from whom you will be hearing the most (just using an example, that isn't a real statistic). I hope this answers some questions.
Oh, about the whole concrete thing: I too went to TSE, where relieving on concrete was the norm. Although Bailey prefers to relieve in grass, I always take him to concrete--our trainers said that if a dog gets used to relieving on grass, it will be much harder to convince them to go back to concrete if they need to for some reason. I don't know how accurate that information is, but I don't want him to get too particular, which may lead to indoor accidents if he develops a strong preference for a surface which happens to be unavailable.

Robert Hooper
Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
The Ohio State University
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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes

Is this for real? You wouldn't want a male dog because you might get peed on?
How will you handle children?
I'm serious, I don't understand the logic here. Can somebody explain?

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes

Lexia is my first dog. I do not want a male dog for the reasons mentioned in the email.

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From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: [nagdu] dog uran getting the shoes

> Hi, Larry,
> I experienced that during training myself, the dog uran getting on my 
> tennis shoes.
> Unfortunately, I only had one pair of tennis shoes, so couldn't wash 
> them immediately for I wasn't sure if they'd be dry before the 
> following day of training.
> It was Freedom David Berry who marked my shoes while he lifted his leg 
> up on one of the metal bars in the relief area at Pilot.
> Reason for hearing the males go is because their peaing is louder and 
> they don't sit down all the way.
> All of my guide have just squatted halfway.
> I did have the practice of parking two female dogs and wasn't able to 
> hear them pea either because they would sit down on the ground all the way.
> As for the males doing the number two thing, they would be in the 
> sitting position while going.
> For the females, the would be sitting halfway toward the ground.
> As for Orleans and Odie, neither of them marked or peaed on my tennis 
> shoes and I was thankful for that.
> As for the part of stepping in that gooy stuff, I didn't like that 
> feeling with and withoutt wearing shoes.
> Just thought I'd share my experiences.
> I'm curious to hear from others on their experiences of what it was 
> like for them when having a male or female dog when potty time occured?
> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
> medical alert service dog
> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
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