[nagdu] Food refusal

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Wed Feb 15 16:09:59 UTC 2012


In a restaurant? Shoot, one day at Applebees I yanked my dog back from the Puppy Plunge for food and some woman went off all over me being mean. I don't really care, but it just eliminates the hassle. I suspect if that was the only way I could find, I would do it that way though.

CL

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Doug Parisian wrote:

> I wouldn't worry about a little yelp.  I'm sure that playing dogs are a lot rougher than a scruff of the neck shake.  I've done the same thing for years with excellent results.  Anyway, it probably looks a lot less dramatic and more effective than a scrambled leash correction from an awkward position.
> Doug: good thing most people don't have loose skin around their necks!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
> To: "NFB-NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:54 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] Food refusal
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>> Hello Lovely List:
>> 
>> While the topic is fresh in everyone's mind, I thought I'd ask about it. Not surprisingly (as he is a German shepherd),  Bailey is not a particularly food driven dog. However, there have been a few incidents where I (or someone else) have dropped a fry or other food morsel in a restaurant and he snatched it. This brings me to my quandary-because he is under the table and I have my foot on the leash (so as to prevent him from moving around too much), this makes under-the-table corrections for such behavior awkward and slow at best. As everyone doubtless knows, any sort of reaction to a dog's behavior (be it praise or correction) must come within 1-3 seconds in order to be effective (one of the reasons why clicker training works so well with them). So, to administer an under-the-table correction, I would have to remove my foot from the leash, grab the leash and give it an awkward yank. In order to circumvent the precious seconds required for this maneuver, I have done away with leash
>> corrections in favor of something else-prepare to report me to animal control. Instead of going for the leash, I take hold of the loose skin at the back of Bailey's neck, close to his skull. I then deliver a short, vigorous shake. This never fails to elicit a yelp from him (which I interpret as him saying "message received"). I don't grab him with an iron fist and shake him like the tectonic plates occasionally shake California; nor do I have a light, caressing grasp. It's just a firm, brisk shake, probably lasting about a quarter second (am I an evil person)? It's the only way of which I can think to administer a correction as he's swallowing the food (if I haven't wrenched it out of his mouth, which I always try to do). It saves time and sends the message. I first did this in a sub restaurant while spending time with a friend. After I corrected Bailey, I talked to my friend for a few minutes, and, while talking to him, I casually dropped another fry in front of Bailey's nose. I
>> had told my friend what I was going to do and asked if he could watch the dog (subtly, of course). I didn't feel Bailey move at all, and my friend confirmed that he didn't even twitch his nose at the fry. So, it seems as though this method works. Does anybody have any suggestions for under-the-table corrections? Julie, I know you said you have worked on food refusal before-how do you correct for things of this nature? I know many people who think my method barbaric (but many people think that "forcing" your dog to work and behave appropriately is barbaric, so I guess that doesn't say much). Any thoughts are welcome.
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