[nagdu] Dry Skin
rhonda cruz
rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Sat Feb 25 13:09:05 UTC 2012
i some times give may the fish .
it makes her cote look nice.
On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
> I used to do that, but I stopped because it made Lexia smell. No, not her fir smell.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dry Skin
>
>
>> Hi,
>> During the winter months here in Wisconsin, I generally start giving a fish oil capsule to my black lab starting in November and will phase it out by about April. It does wonders.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Juanita Herrera
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:02 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Dry Skin
>>
>> Hello All,
>> I took Anise on Tuesday to get groomed. From what the groomer told me,
>> she shampooed, conditioned, deeShed, and trimmed Anise's coat.
>> However, today I was told by someone that she has dandruff. It is
>> quite noticeable because she is a black lab. I am high maintenance,
>> and I groom her daily so I don't know if it was the shampoo they used
>> on her. I haven't called the groomer because they are closed now, and
>> they won't be back until Monday. I did some research and found that
>> adding a piece of avocado to her food would help control the problem,
>> but what do you all think? Has anyone had this happen to them? If so,
>> what did you do in this situation?
>> Best Regards,
>> Juanita And Anise
>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:32:06 -0700
>>> From: "Melissa Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
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>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy raisers.
>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because they
>>> weren't able to make it.
>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama now.
>>>
>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the dog
>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the stops
>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>> Have a blessed day.
>>> Warmly,
>>> Melissa and PJ
>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness. We
>>> have no scar to show for happiness.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>
>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>
>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>> themselves?
>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>
>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:50:04 -0500
>>> From: Danielle Larsen <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
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>>> >From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not have
>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's hard
>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully aware of
>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not hear
>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to hear
>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for my
>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>
>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser contact I
>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us. And to
>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us. We
>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are out
>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going into
>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>
>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies I
>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that they
>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in my
>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great things,
>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>
>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>
>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>
>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email list)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy raisers.
>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because they
>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama now.
>>>>
>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the dog
>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>> stops
>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness.
>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>> themselves?
>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:54:40 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
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>>> Rj,
>>> GDA is Guide Dogs of America and it is located in Southern California.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>
>>> I am not sure what you are asking me, but I think the message was in
>>> response to someone who was trying to make plans to go to Guide Dogs of
>>> America. Maybe this is just a general question attached to my message.
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:22 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools want
>>> us to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive about
>>> this than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and often it
>>> doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of course
>>> I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want another
>>> dog.
>>>>>> Rachel
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:39 -0500
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
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>>>
>>> Hi Danielle.
>>> Thanks for saying that. When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his family
>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in well.
>>> I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know. Thanks
>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>> have
>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>> hard
>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully aware
>>>> of
>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not hear
>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to hear
>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for my
>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>
>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser contact I
>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us. And
>>>> to
>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us. We
>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are out
>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going into
>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies I
>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>> they
>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in my
>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great things,
>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>
>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>
>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email list)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy raisers.
>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because they
>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>>> dog
>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>>> stops
>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness.
>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:21:51 -0500
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>> Message-ID: <52bd87ef8c9ae5fba002211d751a731c.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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>>>
>>> I carry baggies, usually a few. I like the sandwich bags that come on a
>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet season.
>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack. I don't
>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though. I have a heck of a time
>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell. Instead, I have a dogbowl
>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will then
>>> pick up the, er, remains. I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing. I take his grooming
>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats. Sometimes I bring a
>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away. He's either
>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:47:11 -0500
>>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> I agree with you. , if i raised a dog, I would be so worried how he
>>> was doing with his guide dog owner.
>>>
>>> On 2/23/12, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Danielle.
>>>> Thanks for saying that. When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his family
>>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in well.
>>>> I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know. Thanks
>>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>>> have
>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>>> hard
>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully aware
>>>>> of
>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not hear
>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to hear
>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for my
>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser contact
>>>>> I
>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us. And
>>>>> to
>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us. We
>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are out
>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going into
>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies I
>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>>> they
>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in my
>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great things,
>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>> list)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy raisers.
>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because they
>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>>>> stops
>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness.
>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:53:08 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>> Message-ID: <F4007AFB-D025-4EC8-9692-02D760076E9B at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> I have a sense that I would worry for a while; then I would be involved with
>>> my new pup just as we are with the guides. But what a lovely, heart felt
>>> message that was. Also, I've wondered, what if you were a puppy raiser and
>>> you met your dog's new handler but for some reason there was this "I don't
>>> like or trust that person" sense. It could happen. I would worry the more
>>> about the dog then.
>>>
>>> I do think, though, that people should have the option as our Bill of Rights
>>> says.
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:11:17 -0800
>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>> Message-ID: <339D01B29968409486C24BEE66771D17 at stanford.edu>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> I don't carry a gentle leader. They gave us one at GDB, and we had to work a
>>> route using it. The one time that I thought that Lexia would need it once I
>>> got home, she refused to work in it. I put it on her, and she just stood
>>> there like, "You know that I don't need this. Get this ridiculous thing off
>>> of me, or else I'm not going..
>>> I have a hard plastic bowl that "folds" down and has a lid, a soft bowl
>>> that rolls up into a tiny bundle, and a cloth bowl. The cloth bowl only ever
>>> gets used for food.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I carry baggies, usually a few. I like the sandwich bags that come on a
>>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet season.
>>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack. I don't
>>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though. I have a heck of a time
>>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell. Instead, I have a dogbowl
>>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will then
>>>> pick up the, er, remains. I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing. I take his grooming
>>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats. Sometimes I bring a
>>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away. He's either
>>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:12:53 -0800
>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>> Message-ID: <0EFAF0DCCFBA4015B9FC00405CE0E04D at lindagwizdak>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Danielle,
>>> I have Landon from The Seeing Eye and I love him lots!
>>>
>>> I get to see our local puppy raisers from the California schools every fall
>>> when we put on our annual puppy raiser appreciation lunch here in San Diego.
>>> There are no TSE raisers out here.
>>>
>>> I do know of some people who had bad experiences with their dog's puppy
>>> raiser and I do know that this is no reflection on the rest of you. The
>>> people I've met are incredible and we enjoy honoring them at ouor lunch that
>>> we've done annually since 1990.
>>>
>>> As far as TSE policy about raisers meeting grads, who knows if that will
>>> change or not - depends on the grads wishes i suppose. I don't care one way
>>> or another and I do know that some grads have strong opinions for either
>>> side of the issue.
>>>
>>> WE all do appreciate all that puppy raisers do and I know it isn't an easy
>>> job. Thank you all!
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Danielle Larsen" <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>
>>>
>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>> have
>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>> hard
>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully aware
>>>> of
>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not hear
>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to hear
>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for my
>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>
>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser contact I
>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us. And
>>>> to
>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us. We
>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are out
>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going into
>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies I
>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>> they
>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in my
>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great things,
>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>
>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>
>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email list)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy raisers.
>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because they
>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>>> dog
>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>>> stops
>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness.
>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>> graduate56%40juno.com<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/graduate56%40juno.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:29:58 -0500
>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>> Message-ID: <70DB44431D0D44E7A261A3D6DE4E50F3 at klhurstl1>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October of
>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to speak to
>>> the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently on this
>>> list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in deciding to
>>> get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If anyone has any
>>> information that they could share I'd appreciate it. Seeing eye is also
>>> looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>> Thanks,
>>> keri
>>>
>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to
>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak
>>> my heart."
>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>
>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there
>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to
>>> receive it."
>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>
>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it
>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:46:53 -0600
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>> Message-ID: <8A3D3229-9F40-41C4-95A3-7D339AF43C37 at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October of
>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to speak
>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently on
>>>> this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If
>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it. Seeing
>>>> eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> keri
>>>>
>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want
>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>> speak my heart."
>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>
>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>
>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put
>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nagdu:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:42:49 -0700
>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>> Message-ID: <397F49951B2C4C76B2C8F97A2137844A at bibi>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi, all,
>>> Sub says it all.
>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom, so I
>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of the
>>> building.
>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the snow
>>> was blowing around too.
>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither could
>>> see.
>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from going
>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried off
>>> too.
>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have a
>>> delay.
>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I would be
>>> able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>> *Smiles*
>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>> medical alert service dog
>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 13
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:50:23 -0700
>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000033166570 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi it's good to see you back on the list.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 14
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:20:14 -0500
>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>> Message-ID: <5F87914491FC410997ABD727F140FDF0 at klhurstl1>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> yes.
>>> keri
>>>
>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to
>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak
>>> my heart."
>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>
>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there
>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to
>>> receive it."
>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>
>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it
>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October of
>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to speak
>>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently
>>>>> on this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If
>>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>>> Seeing eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> keri
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want
>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>
>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>
>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put
>>>>>
>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 15
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:05 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>> Message-ID: <8100B5D5922B43298CE10B5D82CFF38F at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> And we're getting it in a few hours! Thanks!!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:42 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> Sub says it all.
>>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom, so I
>>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of the
>>>> building.
>>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the
>>>> snow was blowing around too.
>>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither
>>>> could see.
>>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from going
>>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried off
>>>> too.
>>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have a
>>>> delay.
>>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I would
>>>> be able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>>> *Smiles*
>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 16
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:27:46 -0700
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>> Message-ID: <D82832BE7FF04D26B9C9D51CF319B3D2 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Right on, Jess. Isn't that always the way it goes in relationships, they
>>> happen when no one is looking? Lol. Anyway, congrats again.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Natalie
>>> We met through a friend of a friend actually. I had known of him for about 5
>>> years going on but we just started really talking in Aug. of 2010. I
>>> remember me saying I am not looking for a thing haha and him saying great me
>>> either. 6 months later, I was on a plane to dc arriving in ice and snow
>>> which had never seen before and the rest is history. He has a black lab
>>> named Figby. He is a gentle boy but is also 8. He got his in 06 in Oregon at
>>> gdb.
>>> Jess
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:23 PM
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>
>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>> Congratulations on your upcoming wedding. What kind of dog does your
>>>> husband have? Did you guys meet at the GDB campus. Anyway, Liam and I
>>>> wish you guys the best. He and I were trained at GDA, and my boyfriend
>>>> just received his third successor dog from the Oregon campus at GDB.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:35 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have posted.
>>>> I'm Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>> campus. He is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am
>>>> planning my wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog
>>>> came from the same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous
>>>> because am moving from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area
>>>> but am excited to really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on
>>>> our visits and I even think he works better when he is there. He just
>>>> seems to be more focused and not as sniffy as when he walks down these
>>>> roads at home. Hope everyone is doing well
>>>> Jessica
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 17
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:37:28 -0700
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>> Message-ID: <8CF2080BF1934B7C861677F64A3752E1 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard people have.
>>> They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes to our
>>> guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying you can get
>>> this thing solved.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am removing all
>>>>
>>>> of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them behind.
>>>> To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas ware my dog
>>>> does not go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well and
>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 18
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:40:42 -0700
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>> Message-ID: <A094CAEAC96A471580DB1BB33AA2FE43 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer! One time Liam broke his
>>> leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nicole,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be able
>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a funny
>>>>
>>>> story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my dorm room;
>>>>
>>>> however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I know he won't be
>>>>
>>>> getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was asleep, my dog bit
>>>> his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down from a pet store, but
>>>> instead the one provided by the school. It is made of a strong braided
>>>> cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end has an "I splice" in it,
>>>> and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap this cable around my bed
>>>> post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop created by the "I
>>>> splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some point during the night.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they last
>>>>>
>>>>> several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew through the top
>>>>>
>>>>> layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They come in
>>>>> rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with the
>>>>> black being more durable.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a dorm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible chew
>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 19
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:42:39 -0500
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>> Message-ID: <835BFB7696064661832458077EC330AF at cadiganpc>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job picking up
>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute. He was
>>> quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard people
>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes to
>>>>
>>>> our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying you can
>>>> get this thing solved.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am removing
>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas
>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well and
>>>>>
>>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 20
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:47:55 -0700
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>> Message-ID: <638B8C16691C4C4BB58AA11E8165C355 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work. Reason being is if we
>>> need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a meeting on
>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>>> Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so should my dog.
>>> However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High Chapter of the
>>> American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness, put on his
>>> what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and attach his
>>> tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or do
>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are sitting at
>>>>
>>>> a desk and not moving around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness, because
>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary for
>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>> desk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA and
>>>>
>>>> other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 21
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:31 -0700
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>> Message-ID: <694E653F188A43FB88AB61EEC8B7B13D at sansb0623c4f07>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Well, Nicole, I'd be interested in hearing your funny Lexia story. I'd
>>> suppose other inquiring guide dog-minded folks want to know, lol.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> As has been said many times on this list and will probably be said many
>>>>
>>>> times again:
>>>> Harnesses, leashes, vests, and other equipment is not what makes your
>>>> guide dog a service dog.
>>>> If you are not going anywhere, and your dog is well behaved, then, yes,
>>>> take off the harness. Just make sure that he understands that this is only
>>>>
>>>> for his comfort, not so that he can go bouncing around the office.
>>>> Write me off list if you want a funny story about Lexia.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:42 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or do
>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are sitting
>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness, because
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary for
>>>>>
>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>> desk...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 22
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:53:20 -0500
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>> Message-ID: <198A2EC5801A498AA37D16BB06F70808 at cadiganpc>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Natalie,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> he is a power chewer. I don't keep him on tie down at all any more. I have
>>> to be careful what toys I get him. For toys I get him
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear antlers
>>>
>>> Zogoflex toys from west paw design
>>>
>>> Mega toys from Tuffys
>>>
>>> And some other nearly indestructible toys I can't remember who from at this
>>> point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer! One time Liam broke
>>>> his leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be able
>>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>>>> funny story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my
>>>>> dorm room; however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I know
>>>>>
>>>>> he won't be getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was
>>>>> asleep, my dog bit his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down
>>>>> from a pet store, but instead the one provided by the school. It is made
>>>>> of a strong braided cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end has
>>>>> an "I splice" in it, and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap this
>>>>> cable around my bed post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop
>>>>> created by the "I splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some point
>>>>> during the night.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they
>>>>>> last several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew through
>>>>>> the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They come
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with
>>>>>> the black being more durable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a
>>>>>>> dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible chew
>>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 23
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:17:58 -0800
>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>> Message-ID: <5B1A37FE63E04915AF9FFA593DE9A97B at stanford.edu>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Natalie,
>>>
>>> How long are you at work for? It is of course up to you what you do, but
>>> here are just my thoughts. I have written them in your message.
>>>
>>> Reason being is if we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have
>>> to go to a meeting on
>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>>>
>>> Getting out in an emergency: How long does it take for you to put your dog's
>>> harness on?
>>> Spur of the moment: Same thought.
>>> Pets at work: As has been said a million times on this list, it is not
>>> equipment that makes a guide dog. If you are at work in one place for more
>>> than 2 hours, I would really recommend considering taking off the harness.
>>> Also, does your dog not behave if he is not wearing his harness?
>>>
>>> Nicole and Lexia
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work. Reason being is if
>>>> we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>>> meeting on the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the
>>>> workplace. Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so should
>>>>
>>>> my dog. However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High Chapter
>>>>
>>>> of the American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness, put
>>>> on his what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and
>>>> attach his tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or do
>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are sitting
>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness, because
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary for
>>>>>
>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>> desk...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 24
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:30:24 -0700
>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>> Message-ID: <DDC0409F426F4111A4EC2C1FD475F055 at bibi>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Hi, Larry,
>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother Nature.
>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>> *Smiles*
>>> Bibi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 25
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:10:27 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>> Message-ID: <39782A9DB3AA48979B20EBFEA39E4400 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Sure it is! We'll be safe! Just I'll have to be sure to find my little
>>> snow colored dog out there!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother Nature.
>>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>>> *Smiles*
>>>> Bibi
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 26
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:19:59 -0700
>>> From: "Rachel Krieg" <serenityangel1983 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>> Message-ID: <AF3B1C57CD814CD3BA0DEBEEEFEBD2DC at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Hi, RJ.
>>>
>>> Yes, it is Guide dogs of America.
>>> Rachel
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools want us
>>>>>
>>>>> to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive about this
>>>>>
>>>>> than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and often it
>>>>> doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>>>>> course I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>>>>>
>>>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>>>> another dog.
>>>>>> Rachel
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 27
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:45:27 -0500
>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>> Message-ID: <005901ccf2b1$42443040$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>
>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 28
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:18:58 -0700
>>> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>> possible future guide dog
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAHgwiL_8PUTwfd0FV4Phm17gEEcZNBvzS7G쁩튃�_Gw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you enjoy
>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my dogs
>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog to
>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female Black
>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping this
>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still has to
>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six weeks.
>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for as she
>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is very
>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on her
>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to learn
>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next guide
>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as Shaman
>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time for
>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means and
>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I am
>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever had
>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she got
>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide the
>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day, Mardi and
>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 29
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:54:03 -0500
>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>> Message-ID: <007301ccf2b8$ce2d95e0$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi Rox,
>>>
>>> Welcome back to the list. And it's nice to meet you. I'm new to the list, so
>>> I'm sure you don't know me. So let me take this time to introduce myself to
>>> you.
>>>
>>> My name is Lori and I live in Ohio with my Leader Dog Gipp.Gipp is a 2 year
>>> old yellow lab and he's my second dog from Leader Dogs. He's also my fourth
>>> lab but my 7th dog.
>>>
>>> Here's what I carry for my dog. I carry a gentle leader for my dog which he
>>> wears. I also carry a container of bags which you can purchase in the pet
>>> store. Which I keep in my purse but I also carry several news paperbags
>>> either in my pocket, coat or in my purse. You never can have too many pick
>>> up bags. I also carry two clapsible bowls for food and water in my purse. I
>>> also will carry in my purse a portioned out meal of dog food in a zip lock
>>> baggy just in case I'm not home at feeding time, so if I'm out at his meal
>>> time I can feed him.And I will carry a water bottle for my dog in the
>>> Spring and Summer time when were out and about. AI also will carry when
>>> needed a towl so that I can wipe down my dog if he's wet, muggy or dirty.
>>>
>>> If I'm going to be staying somewhere overnight, I will pack Gipps metal food
>>> bowl, a few portioned out bags of dog food depending on how many days I'll
>>> be away, plenty of pick up bags , his grooming tools, a towl to wipe him off
>>> with if needed,a few dog treats in a baggy, a nyla bone for my dog to
>>> chew on and a tie down chain and some paper towls.
>>>
>>> i don't carry a first aid kit for my dog or me but it is something to
>>> consider though. Take care.
>>>
>>> Lori and theGipper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 30
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:23:45 -0500
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Mutt mat
>>> Message-ID: <2081f14bf35b1572386a91bc6d0a10c0.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>
>>> Hi Lori.
>>> A Mutt Mat is a small blanket for the dog to lie on. TSE gives them to
>>> students so the dog has something to lie on in the student rooms, and we
>>> take them home with us. It's double-thick, quilted, heavy cotton,
>>> washable, and folds up pretty small. I have sometimes folded it up and
>>> stuffed it into Ben's dog dish for packing. Last time I took it though, I
>>> forgot it and had to go through a bit to get it back, so now I think twice
>>> about taking it.
>>> My husband and I take ballroom dancing classes, so right now the mutt mat
>>> is in the dance bag with our dancing shoes, so Ben can curl up on it while
>>> we do our thing in the studio.
>>> Tracy
>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>
>>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 31
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:24:00 -0800
>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>> possible future guide dog
>>> Message-ID: <B13385C8-711E-4C4E-A8E6-47CFDCE380DC at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> hi
>>> All the best.
>>> i hope it works out.
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you enjoy
>>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my dogs
>>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog to
>>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female Black
>>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping this
>>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still has
>>>> to
>>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six weeks.
>>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for as
>>>> she
>>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is very
>>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on her
>>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to learn
>>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next guide
>>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as Shaman
>>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time for
>>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means and
>>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I am
>>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever had
>>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she got
>>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide the
>>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day, Mardi and
>>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 32
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:18:37 -0800
>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>> Message-ID: <3F286454-FBB4-4700-94AB-29B61BBC3433 at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> hi mark.
>>> you are doing your best. hugs.
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>
>>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job picking up
>>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute. He
>>>> was quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard people
>>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes
>>>>> to our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying you
>>>>> can get this thing solved.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am removing
>>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas
>>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>>>>> and bonding nicely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 33
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:05:46 -0500
>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and
>>> tourism division meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>> Message-ID: <A8E5507258CF466896BF1ED76AAC88EB at margoda7a829ca>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu"
>>> <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:15 AM
>>> Subject: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism division
>>> meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Travel and Tourism Division, a proud division of the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind, will be having there monthly teleconference on
>>>> Monday, February 27th at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central, 6pm Mountain, and 5pm
>>>> Pacific Time.
>>>>
>>>> We will be discuss 2 possible tours at the National Convention, as well as
>>>>
>>>> any ideas that the membership may have ideas about as well. Plus updates
>>>> from Peter Donahue on our website, as well a new name to our Division Mr.
>>>> Daniel Carr from Texas, who is working as a co-webmaster and also as an
>>>> interim board member.
>>>> We need to finalize these things to be published in the Braille Monitor by
>>>>
>>>> the April Edition.
>>>> We welcome anyone onto the calls, members of the division, members of the
>>>> NFB, and those of you who do not fall under any of the categories.
>>>> Call in directions for the call as follows.
>>>> The call in number is 1-805-360-1000 this is not a toll
>>>> free number
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> once you get the recording you will be asked to put in your participant
>>>> access code which is 871517#.Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Cheryl Echevarria, PresidentTravel and Tourism DivisionNational Federation
>>>>
>>>> of the Blind631-236-5138president at nfb-travel.com
>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>>>>
>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>>>> 631-456-5394
>>>> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>>
>>>> For daily updates read our blog at
>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 34
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:20:32 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Message-ID: <D0916687BE65401C8719B2919C692991 at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hello all! I am still looking for people to form a division of guide dog
>>> users in the wonderful state of Michigan. I would love to hear from you!!
>>> My email address is, lkeeler at comcast.net email me and I will get back with
>>> you and give you the reest of my contact info. Also, we will tackle some
>>> transportation issues around the state. Thanks and hope to hear from you
>>> soon. Larry D. Keeler Secretary, National Federation of the Blind Ann Arbor
>>> chapter.
>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 35
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:51 -0500
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Message-ID: <90CA55F7950D4E00893D32731CD4FD90 at Babylon5>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> you already have my info
>>> hope you and especially Holly are enjoying the snow, i know Lynard is lol
>>>
>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 36
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:52:54 -0500
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Message-ID: <09F00E28BB0B47D5A2E95F14BC2F6B2D at yourec0540d030>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Does this mean that you are interested?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>
>>>
>>>> you already have my info hope you and especially Holly are enjoying the
>>>> snow, i know Lynard is lol
>>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> End of nagdu Digest, Vol 83, Issue 56
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