[nagdu] Dry Skin

[Tracy Carcione]

I don't think adding a piece of avacado would be harmful, but I don't know
how much would be required to actually help, either.
I used to put the Pet Tabs fatty acid supplement on the dog's food.  It
seemed to help.  I haven't used it since I switched to a high-quality
food, Canidae.  Ben doesn't seem to be afflicted with dry skin all that
much.
Tracy


> Hello All,
> I took Anise on Tuesday to get groomed. From what the groomer told me,
> she shampooed, conditioned, deeShed, and trimmed Anise's coat.
> However, today I was told by someone that she has dandruff. It is
> quite noticeable because she is a black lab. I am high maintenance,
> and I groom her daily so I don't know if it was the shampoo they used
> on her. I haven't called the groomer because they are closed now, and
> they won't be back until Monday. I did some research and found that
> adding a piece of avocado to her food would help control the problem,
> but what do you all think? Has anyone had this happen to them? If so,
> what did you do in this situation?
> Best Regards,
> Juanita And Anise
>
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>>    1. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Melissa Green)
>>    2. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Danielle Larsen)
>>    3. Re: another update (Hannah Chadwick)
>>    4. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Tracy Carcione)
>>    5. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Tracy Carcione)
>>    6. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Lea williams)
>>    7. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Cindy Ray)
>>    8. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>>    9. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>   10. looking for a dog (keri)
>>   11. Re: looking for a dog (Cindy Ray)
>>   12. more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>   13. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Sheila Leigland)
>>   14. Re: looking for a dog (keri)
>>   15. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>   16. Re: Update (Natalie)
>>   17. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Natalie)
>>   18. Re: Dog food (Natalie)
>>   19. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>   20. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>   21. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>   22. Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>   23. Re: Dogs At Work (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>>   24. Re: more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>   25. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>   26. Re: another update (Rachel Krieg)
>>   27. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>   28. Welcome to all the new people on the list / New, possible
>>       future guide dog (Mardi Hadfield)
>>   29. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>   30. Mutt mat (Tracy Carcione)
>>   31. Re: Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,	possible
>>       future guide dog (rhonda cruz)
>>   32. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (rhonda cruz)
>>   33. Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>>       division meeting, Monday, February 27th (Margo and Arrow)
>>   34. Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
>>   35. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (William Vandervest)
>>   36. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:32:06 -0700
>> From: "Melissa Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <DD19035421BB4034BEB9E1906872620C at melissa>
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>>
>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy raisers.
>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because they
>> weren't able to make it.
>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>> I still keep in contact with them.
>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama now.
>>
>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>> dog
>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>> stops
>> trying to get the dog back.
>> Have a blessed day.
>> Warmly,
>> Melissa and PJ
>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember sweetness.
>> We
>> have no scar to show for happiness.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>
>>
>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>
>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>
>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>> themselves?
>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>
>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>> Would you rather it different?
>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:50:04 -0500
>> From: Danielle Larsen <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
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>> >From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>> have
>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>> hard
>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully aware
>> of
>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>> hear
>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to hear
>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for my
>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>
>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser contact
>> I
>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us. And
>> to
>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us. We
>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>> out
>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going into
>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>
>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies
>> I
>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>> they
>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in my
>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great things,
>> and enjoying their lives.
>>
>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>> that's all we really hope for.
>>
>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>
>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>> list)
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>> raisers.
>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>> they
>>> weren't able to make it.
>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>> now.
>>>
>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>> dog
>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>> stops
>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>> Have a blessed day.
>>> Warmly,
>>> Melissa and PJ
>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>> sweetness.
>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>
>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>
>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>> themselves?
>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>
>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:54:40 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>> Message-ID: <001501ccf25c$99967830$ccc36890$@gmail.com>
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>> Rj,
>> GDA is Guide Dogs of America and it is located in Southern California.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:31 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>
>> I am not sure what you are asking me, but I think the message was in
>> response to someone who was trying to make plans to go to Guide Dogs of
>> America. Maybe this is just a general question attached to my message.
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:22 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>
>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools
>>>> want
>> us to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive about
>> this than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and
>> often it
>> doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>> course
>> I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>
>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied.
>>>>> They
>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>> another
>> dog.
>>>>> Rachel
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:39 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
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>> Hi Danielle.
>> Thanks for saying that.  When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>> family
>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>> well.
>>  I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>> Thanks
>> for confirming that opinion.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>> have
>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>> hard
>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>> aware
>>> of
>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>> hear
>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>> hear
>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>> my
>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>
>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>> contact I
>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>> And
>>> to
>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>> We
>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>> out
>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>> into
>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>
>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies
>>> I
>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>> they
>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>> my
>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>> things,
>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>
>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>
>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>
>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>> list)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>> raisers.
>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>> they
>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>> dog
>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>>> stops
>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>> sweetness.
>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>> themselves?
>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:21:51 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <52bd87ef8c9ae5fba002211d751a731c.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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>> I carry baggies, usually a few.  I like the sandwich bags that come on a
>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>> season.
>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack.  I
>> don't
>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though.  I have a heck of a time
>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell.  Instead, I have a dogbowl
>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>> then
>> pick up the, er, remains.  I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing.  I take his grooming
>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats.  Sometimes I bring a
>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away.  He's either
>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hey everyone
>>>
>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:47:11 -0500
>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID:
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>> I agree with you. , if i raised a dog, I would be so worried how he
>> was doing with his guide dog owner.
>>
>> On 2/23/12, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Danielle.
>>> Thanks for saying that.  When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>>> family
>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>>> well.
>>>  I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>>> Thanks
>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>>> have
>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>>> hard
>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>> aware
>>>> of
>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>> hear
>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>> hear
>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>> my
>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>
>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>> contact
>>>> I
>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>> And
>>>> to
>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>> We
>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>> out
>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>> lives,
>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>> into
>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>> puppies I
>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>>> they
>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>> at
>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>> my
>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>> things,
>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>
>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>
>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>> list)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>> raisers.
>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>> they
>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>> the
>>>>> dog
>>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>>>> stops
>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>> you
>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> graduate56%40juno.com<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/graduate56%40juno.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:53:08 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <F4007AFB-D025-4EC8-9692-02D760076E9B at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I have a sense that I would worry for a while; then I would be involved
>> with
>> my new pup just as we are with the guides. But what a lovely, heart felt
>> message that was. Also, I've wondered, what if you were a puppy raiser
>> and
>> you met your dog's new handler but for some reason there was this "I
>> don't
>> like or trust that person" sense. It could happen. I would worry the
>> more
>> about the dog then.
>>
>> I do think, though, that people should have the option as our Bill of
>> Rights
>> says.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:11:17 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <339D01B29968409486C24BEE66771D17 at stanford.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> I don't carry a gentle leader. They gave us one at GDB, and we had to
>> work a
>> route using it. The one time that I thought that Lexia would need it
>> once I
>> got home, she refused to work in it. I put it on her, and she just stood
>> there like, "You know that I don't need this. Get this ridiculous thing
>> off
>> of me, or else I'm not going..
>>     I have a hard plastic bowl that "folds" down and has a lid, a soft
>> bowl
>> that rolls up into a tiny bundle, and a cloth bowl. The cloth bowl only
>> ever
>> gets used for food.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>
>>
>>>I carry baggies, usually a few.  I like the sandwich bags that come on a
>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>>> season.
>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack.  I
>>> don't
>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though.  I have a heck of a
>>> time
>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell.  Instead, I have a
>>> dogbowl
>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>>> then
>>> pick up the, er, remains.  I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing.  I take his grooming
>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats.  Sometimes I bring a
>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away.  He's either
>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:12:53 -0800
>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <0EFAF0DCCFBA4015B9FC00405CE0E04D at lindagwizdak>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> Danielle,
>> I have Landon from The Seeing Eye and I love him lots!
>>
>> I get to see our local puppy raisers from the California schools every
>> fall
>> when we put on our annual puppy raiser appreciation lunch here in San
>> Diego.
>> There are no TSE raisers out here.
>>
>> I do know of some people who had bad experiences with their dog's puppy
>> raiser and I do know that this is no reflection on the rest of you.  The
>> people I've met are incredible and we enjoy honoring them at ouor lunch
>> that
>> we've done annually since 1990.
>>
>> As far as TSE policy about raisers meeting grads, who knows if that will
>> change or not - depends on the grads wishes i suppose.  I don't care one
>> way
>> or another and I do know that some grads have strong opinions for either
>> side of the issue.
>>
>> WE all do appreciate all that puppy raisers do and I know it isn't an
>> easy
>> job.  Thank you all!
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Danielle Larsen" <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>
>>
>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine people
>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to not
>>> have
>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think. It's
>>> hard
>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>> aware
>>> of
>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>> hear
>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>> hear
>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>> my
>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>
>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>> contact I
>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>> And
>>> to
>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising program,
>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>> We
>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>> out
>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their lives,
>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>> into
>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>
>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the puppies
>>> I
>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and that
>>> they
>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them at
>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>> my
>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>> things,
>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>
>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>
>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>
>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>> list)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday.  That is when you meet your puppy
>>>> raisers.
>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>> they
>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>> I remember one things that was said too me.  It was you're her mama
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get the
>>>> dog
>>>> back.  This happened to a friend of mine.  They pulled out all of the
>>>> stops
>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>> sweetness.
>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>> themselves?
>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>> graduate56%40juno.com<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/graduate56%40juno.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:29:58 -0500
>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>> Message-ID: <70DB44431D0D44E7A261A3D6DE4E50F3 at klhurstl1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October of
>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to speak
>> to
>> the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently on
>> this
>> list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in deciding
>> to
>> get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If anyone has
>> any
>> information that they could share I'd appreciate it. Seeing eye is also
>> looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>> Thanks,
>> keri
>>
>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want
>> to
>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>> speak
>> my heart."
>> --Robert Sexton
>>
>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>> there
>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>> somewhere to
>> receive it."
>> --Ivan Panin
>>
>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>> put it
>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:46:53 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>> Message-ID: <8A3D3229-9F40-41C4-95A3-7D339AF43C37 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>> of
>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>> speak
>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently
>>> on
>>> this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If
>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>> Seeing
>>> eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>> Thanks,
>>> keri
>>>
>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>> want
>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>> will
>>> speak my heart."
>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>
>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>
>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>> put
>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nagdu:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:42:49 -0700
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>> Message-ID: <397F49951B2C4C76B2C8F97A2137844A at bibi>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi, all,
>> Sub says it all.
>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom, so
>> I
>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of the
>> building.
>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the
>> snow
>> was blowing around too.
>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither
>> could
>> see.
>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>> going
>> over there since it's not pet related.
>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried off
>> too.
>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have a
>> delay.
>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I would
>> be
>> able to get out and get some more walking in.
>> *Smiles*
>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>> medical alert service dog
>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:50:23 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <auto-000033166570 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi it's good to see you back on the list.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:20:14 -0500
>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>> Message-ID: <5F87914491FC410997ABD727F140FDF0 at klhurstl1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> yes.
>> keri
>>
>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want
>> to
>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>> speak
>> my heart."
>> --Robert Sexton
>>
>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>> there
>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>> somewhere to
>> receive it."
>> --Ivan Panin
>>
>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>> put it
>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>
>>
>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>> of
>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>> speak
>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are
>>>> currently
>>>> on this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If
>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>> Seeing eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as
>>>> well.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> keri
>>>>
>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>> want
>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>> will
>>>> speak my heart."
>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>
>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>
>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>> put
>>>>
>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:05 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>> Message-ID: <8100B5D5922B43298CE10B5D82CFF38F at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> And we're getting it in a few hours!  Thanks!!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:42 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>
>>
>>> Hi, all,
>>> Sub says it all.
>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom, so
>>> I
>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of the
>>> building.
>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as the
>>> snow was blowing around too.
>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where neither
>>> could see.
>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>>> going
>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried
>>> off
>>> too.
>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did have
>>> a
>>> delay.
>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I
>>> would
>>> be able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>> *Smiles*
>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>> medical alert service dog
>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:27:46 -0700
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>> Message-ID: <D82832BE7FF04D26B9C9D51CF319B3D2 at sansb0623c4f07>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Right on, Jess.  Isn't that always the way it goes in relationships,
>> they
>> happen when no one is looking?  Lol.  Anyway, congrats again.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>
>>
>> Hi Natalie
>> We met through a friend of a friend actually. I had known of him for
>> about 5
>> years going on but we just started really talking in Aug. of 2010. I
>> remember me saying I am not looking for a thing haha and him saying
>> great me
>> either. 6 months later, I was on a plane to dc arriving in ice and snow
>> which had never seen before and the rest is history. He has a black lab
>> named Figby. He is a gentle boy but is also 8. He got his in 06 in
>> Oregon at
>> gdb.
>> Jess
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:23 PM
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>
>>> Hi Jessica,
>>> Congratulations on your upcoming wedding.  What kind of dog does your
>>> husband have?  Did you guys meet at the GDB campus.  Anyway, Liam and I
>>> wish you guys the best.  He and I were trained at GDA,  and my
>>> boyfriend
>>> just received his third successor dog from the Oregon campus at GDB.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:35 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have posted.
>>> I'm Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>> campus. He is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now
>>> am
>>> planning my wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog
>>> came from the same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous
>>> because am moving from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area
>>> but am excited to really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on
>>> our visits and I even think he works better when he is there. He just
>>> seems to be more focused and not as sniffy as when he walks down these
>>> roads at home. Hope everyone is doing well
>>> Jessica
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:37:28 -0700
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>> Message-ID: <8CF2080BF1934B7C861677F64A3752E1 at sansb0623c4f07>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>> horseradish about the relief area.  It's such a double standard people
>> have.
>> They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes to our
>> guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else.  Praying you can
>> get
>> this thing solved.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>
>>
>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am removing
>>> all
>>>
>>> of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>> behind.
>>> To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas ware my
>>> dog
>>> does not go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>> and
>>> bonding nicely.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:40:42 -0700
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>> Message-ID: <A094CAEAC96A471580DB1BB33AA2FE43 at sansb0623c4f07>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer!  One time Liam broke
>> his
>> leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>
>>
>>> Nicole,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>> able
>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>> funny
>>>
>>> story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my dorm
>>> room;
>>>
>>> however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I know he won't
>>> be
>>>
>>> getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was asleep, my dog
>>> bit
>>> his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down from a pet store,
>>> but
>>> instead the one provided by the school. It is made of a strong braided
>>> cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end has an "I splice" in
>>> it,
>>> and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap this cable around my bed
>>> post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop created by the "I
>>> splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some point during the night.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they
>>>> last
>>>>
>>>> several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew through the
>>>> top
>>>>
>>>> layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They come in
>>>> rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with the
>>>> black being more durable.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a
>>>>> dorm
>>>>>
>>>>> room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible chew
>>>>> toys?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:42:39 -0500
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>> Message-ID: <835BFB7696064661832458077EC330AF at cadiganpc>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job picking
>> up
>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute. He
>> was
>> quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>> horseradish about the relief area.  It's such a double standard people
>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes
>>> to
>>>
>>> our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else.  Praying you
>>> can
>>> get this thing solved.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am removing
>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas
>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:47:55 -0700
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>> Message-ID: <638B8C16691C4C4BB58AA11E8165C355 at sansb0623c4f07>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work.  Reason being is if
>> we
>> need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>> meeting on
>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>> Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so should my dog.
>> However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High Chapter of
>> the
>> American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness, put on
>> his
>> what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and attach his
>> tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or do
>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are sitting
>>> at
>>>
>>> a desk and not moving around.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>> because
>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>> for
>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>> desk...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>>> and
>>>
>>> other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:31 -0700
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>> Message-ID: <694E653F188A43FB88AB61EEC8B7B13D at sansb0623c4f07>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Well, Nicole, I'd be interested in hearing your funny Lexia story.  I'd
>> suppose other inquiring guide dog-minded folks want to know, lol.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>>    As has been said many times on this list and will probably be said
>>> many
>>>
>>> times again:
>>> Harnesses, leashes, vests, and other equipment  is not what makes your
>>> guide dog a service dog.
>>> If you are not going anywhere, and your dog is well behaved, then, yes,
>>> take off the harness. Just make sure that he understands that this is
>>> only
>>>
>>> for his comfort, not so that he can go bouncing around the office.
>>> Write me off list if you want a funny story about Lexia.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:42 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>> do
>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>> sitting
>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>> because
>>>>
>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>> desk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:53:20 -0500
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>> Message-ID: <198A2EC5801A498AA37D16BB06F70808 at cadiganpc>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Natalie,
>>
>>
>>
>> he is a power chewer. I don't keep him on tie down at all any more. I
>> have
>> to be careful what toys I get him. For toys I get him
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear antlers
>>
>> Zogoflex toys from west paw design
>>
>> Mega toys from Tuffys
>>
>> And some other nearly indestructible toys I can't remember who from at
>> this
>> point.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>
>>
>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer!  One time Liam
>>> broke
>>> his leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nicole,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>>> able
>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>>> funny story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my
>>>> dorm room; however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I
>>>> know
>>>>
>>>> he won't be getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was
>>>> asleep, my dog bit his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down
>>>> from a pet store, but instead the one provided by the school. It is
>>>> made
>>>> of a strong braided cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end
>>>> has
>>>> an "I splice" in it, and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap
>>>> this
>>>> cable around my bed post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop
>>>> created by the "I splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some point
>>>> during the night.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but they
>>>>> last several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew
>>>>> through
>>>>> the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They
>>>>> come
>>>>>
>>>>> in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with
>>>>> the black being more durable.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in a
>>>>>> dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible chew
>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:17:58 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>> Message-ID: <5B1A37FE63E04915AF9FFA593DE9A97B at stanford.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Natalie,
>>
>>     How long are you at work for? It is of course up to you what you do,
>> but
>> here are just my thoughts. I have written them in your message.
>>
>> Reason being is if we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we
>> have
>> to go to a meeting on
>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the workplace.
>>
>> Getting out in an emergency: How long does it take for you to put your
>> dog's
>> harness on?
>> Spur of the moment: Same thought.
>> Pets at work: As has been said a million times on this list, it is not
>> equipment that makes a guide dog. If you are at work in one place for
>> more
>> than 2 hours, I would really recommend considering taking off the
>> harness.
>> Also, does your dog not behave if he is not wearing his harness?
>>
>> Nicole and Lexia
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work.  Reason being is
>>> if
>>> we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>> meeting on the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the
>>> workplace. Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so
>>> should
>>>
>>> my dog. However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High
>>> Chapter
>>>
>>> of the American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness,
>>> put
>>> on his what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and
>>> attach his tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>> do
>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>> sitting
>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>> because
>>>>
>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is unnecessary
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>> desk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the ADA
>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 24
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:30:24 -0700
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>> Message-ID: <DDC0409F426F4111A4EC2C1FD475F055 at bibi>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Hi, Larry,
>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother Nature.
>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>> *Smiles*
>> Bibi
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:10:27 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>> Message-ID: <39782A9DB3AA48979B20EBFEA39E4400 at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Sure it is!  We'll be safe!  Just I'll have to be sure to find my little
>> snow colored dog out there!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>
>>
>>> Hi, Larry,
>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother
>>> Nature.
>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>> *Smiles*
>>> Bibi
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 26
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:19:59 -0700
>> From: "Rachel Krieg" <serenityangel1983 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>> Message-ID: <AF3B1C57CD814CD3BA0DEBEEEFEBD2DC at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Hi, RJ.
>>
>> Yes, it is Guide dogs of America.
>> Rachel
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>
>>
>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools want
>>>> us
>>>>
>>>>to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive about
>>>> this
>>>>
>>>>than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and often it
>>>>doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>>>>course I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>
>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied.
>>>>> They
>>>>>
>>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I
>>>>> am
>>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>>> another dog.
>>>>> Rachel
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 27
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:45:27 -0500
>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <005901ccf2b1$42443040$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Tracy,
>>
>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>
>> Lori and theGippermat
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 28
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:18:58 -0700
>> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>> 	possible future guide dog
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<CAHgwiL_8PUTwfd0FV4Phm17gEEcZNBvzS7G쁩튃�_Gw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>> enjoy
>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my dogs
>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog to
>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female Black
>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping this
>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still has
>> to
>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six weeks.
>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for as
>> she
>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>> very
>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on
>> her
>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to learn
>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next guide
>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>> Shaman
>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time
>> for
>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means and
>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I am
>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever had
>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she
>> got
>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide the
>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day,  Mardi
>> and
>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>
>> --
>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 29
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:54:03 -0500
>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <007301ccf2b8$ce2d95e0$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Rox,
>>
>> Welcome back to the list. And it's nice to meet you. I'm new to the
>> list, so
>> I'm sure you don't know me. So let me take this time to introduce myself
>> to
>> you.
>>
>> My name is Lori and I live in Ohio with my Leader Dog Gipp.Gipp  is a 2
>> year
>> old yellow lab and he's my second dog from Leader Dogs. He's also my
>> fourth
>> lab but my 7th dog.
>>
>> Here's what I carry for my dog. I carry a gentle leader for my dog which
>> he
>> wears. I also carry a container of bags which you can purchase in the
>> pet
>> store. Which I keep in my purse but I also carry several news paperbags
>> either in my pocket, coat or in my purse. You never can have too many
>> pick
>> up bags.  I also carry two clapsible bowls for food and water in my
>> purse. I
>> also will carry in my purse a portioned out meal of dog food in a zip
>> lock
>> baggy  just in case I'm not home at feeding time, so if I'm out at his
>> meal
>> time I  can feed him.And I will carry a water bottle for my dog in the
>> Spring and Summer time when were out and about. AI also will carry when
>> needed a towl so that I can wipe down my dog if he's wet, muggy or
>> dirty.
>>
>> If I'm going to be staying somewhere overnight, I will pack Gipps metal
>> food
>> bowl,  a few portioned out bags of dog food depending on how many days
>> I'll
>> be away, plenty of pick up bags , his grooming tools, a towl to wipe him
>> off
>> with  if needed,a few dog  treats  in a baggy, a nyla bone for my dog to
>> chew on and a tie down chain and some paper towls.
>>
>> i don't carry a first aid kit for my dog or me but it is something to
>> consider though. Take care.
>>
>> Lori and theGipper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 30
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:23:45 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Mutt mat
>> Message-ID: <2081f14bf35b1572386a91bc6d0a10c0.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Hi Lori.
>> A Mutt Mat is a small blanket for the dog to lie on.  TSE gives them to
>> students so the dog has something to lie on in the student rooms, and we
>> take them home with us.  It's double-thick, quilted, heavy cotton,
>> washable, and folds up pretty small.  I have sometimes folded it up and
>> stuffed it into Ben's dog dish for packing.  Last time I took it though,
>> I
>> forgot it and had to go through a bit to get it back, so now I think
>> twice
>> about taking it.
>> My husband and I take ballroom dancing classes, so right now the mutt
>> mat
>> is in the dance bag with our dancing shoes, so Ben can curl up on it
>> while
>> we do our thing in the studio.
>> Tracy
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>
>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 31
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:24:00 -0800
>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>> 	possible future guide dog
>> Message-ID: <B13385C8-711E-4C4E-A8E6-47CFDCE380DC at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>  hi
>>  All the best.
>>  i hope it works out.
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>
>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>>> enjoy
>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my
>>> dogs
>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as blindness.My
>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog to
>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female
>>> Black
>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping
>>> this
>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still
>>> has
>>> to
>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six
>>> weeks.
>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for as
>>> she
>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She has
>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue dogs
>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>>> very
>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles on
>>> her
>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to
>>> learn
>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next guide
>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>>> Shaman
>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long time
>>> for
>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means and
>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I am
>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever had
>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she
>>> got
>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide
>>> the
>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day,  Mardi
>>> and
>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 32
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:18:37 -0800
>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>> Message-ID: <3F286454-FBB4-4700-94AB-29B61BBC3433 at gmail.com>
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>>
>>  hi mark.
>>  you are doing your best. hugs.
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>
>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job picking
>>> up
>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute. He
>>> was quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>> horseradish about the relief area.  It's such a double standard people
>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it
>>>> comes
>>>> to our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else.  Praying
>>>> you
>>>> can get this thing solved.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>> removing
>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas
>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing well
>>>>> and bonding nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 33
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:05:46 -0500
>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and
>> 	tourism division meeting, Monday, February 27th
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu"
>> <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:15 AM
>> Subject: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>> division
>> meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The Travel and Tourism Division, a proud division of the National
>>> Federation of the Blind, will be having there monthly teleconference on
>>> Monday, February 27th at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central, 6pm Mountain, and
>>> 5pm
>>> Pacific Time.
>>>
>>> We will be discuss 2 possible tours at the National Convention, as well
>>> as
>>>
>>> any ideas that the membership may have ideas about as well.  Plus
>>> updates
>>> from Peter Donahue on our website, as well a new name to our Division
>>> Mr.
>>> Daniel Carr from Texas, who is working as a co-webmaster and also as an
>>> interim board member.
>>> We need to finalize these things to be published in the Braille Monitor
>>> by
>>>
>>> the April Edition.
>>> We welcome anyone onto the calls, members of the division, members of
>>> the
>>> NFB, and those of you who do not fall under any of the categories.
>>> Call in directions for the call as follows.
>>> The call in number is             1-805-360-1000       this is not a
>>> toll
>>> free number
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> once you get the recording you will be asked to put in your participant
>>> access code which is 871517#.Thank you.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Cheryl Echevarria, PresidentTravel and Tourism DivisionNational
>>> Federation
>>>
>>> of the Blind631-236-5138president at nfb-travel.com
>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>>>
>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>>> 631-456-5394
>>> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>
>>> For daily updates read our blog at
>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 34
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:20:32 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Message-ID: <D0916687BE65401C8719B2919C692991 at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hello all!  I am still looking for people to form a division of guide
>> dog
>> users in the wonderful state of Michigan.  I would love to hear from
>> you!!
>> My email address is, lkeeler at comcast.net email me and I will get back
>> with
>> you and give you the reest of my contact info.  Also, we will tackle
>> some
>> transportation issues around the state.  Thanks and hope to hear from
>> you
>> soon.  Larry D. Keeler Secretary, National Federation of the Blind Ann
>> Arbor
>> chapter.
>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 35
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:51 -0500
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Message-ID: <90CA55F7950D4E00893D32731CD4FD90 at Babylon5>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> you already have my info
>> hope you and especially Holly are enjoying the snow, i know Lynard is
>> lol
>>
>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 36
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:52:54 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Message-ID: <09F00E28BB0B47D5A2E95F14BC2F6B2D at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=response
>>
>> Does this mean that you are interested?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>
>>
>>> you already have my info hope you and especially Holly are enjoying the
>>> snow, i know Lynard is lol
>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
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>>
>>
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