[nagdu] Doggy B.O.

Tue Feb 28 06:30:23 UTC 2012

Oh dear. Maybe try rewarding him when he stands still? Lexia is pretty good 
except for when I brush her back. She keeps trying to walk off, but I think 
that she is confused by the brush running against her fir line.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.

> If I can get him to stay still.  He will stay with the leash on, because 
> he knows I can give him a correction. However, the leash has to be in my 
> hand which precludes me brushing or washing him. I brush him every day, 
> however, I have to hold him to do so. And I have to stop and revisit it a 
> lot because he tries to walk off.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>
>
>> Hello Mark:
>>
>> How we love our shepherd kids. Anyway, it seems as though he just doesn't 
>> relish the thought of your hands in that area--maybe try some 
>> behavior/obedience exercises? I taught Bailey a command which means 
>> "stand up", for example. If Bailey were exhibiting this behavior, I would 
>> tell him to stand up, praise him, etc. After a while, I would add the 
>> "rest" command to make him stand still. So then, if he rebels and sits 
>> down despite my giving him the rest command, that would be when I would 
>> give him a correction and start over. I would do this until I could wash 
>> the area with him standing. I never let him do anything without 
>> permission--if he started walking away after I told him to "rest", that 
>> would be means for a correction, followed by praise when he displays 
>> appropriate behavior. I never let him get away with trying to dictate 
>> what he wants. On a further note, have you tried cleaning him while he is 
>> laying down? Bailey's skin rash is near that general area, so when I wash 
>> it, I just have him lay on his side and make him "rest"; however, Bailey 
>> is a very accepting dog once he realizes that I mean business and will 
>> keep at it all night until he complies. That area is very easy to reach 
>> when a dog is laying on its side--unless he is in pain, you shouldn't 
>> have to hold him down or anything, thus leaving both hands free. Bailey 
>> is very easygoing for the most part.
>> Shepherds have their quirks and can be stubborn, but that makes it all 
>> the more fun in my opinion--I consider it an impressive feat to not only 
>> win over a shepherd, but to master it as well! Muhahahahaha (cue evil 
>> music in a minor key).
>> Sincerely,
>> Robert Hooper
>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>> The Ohio State University
>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>> (740) 856-8195
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:27 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>>
>>
>> His response is to sit down, and refuse to stand up. He will just stare 
>> at you doing his little doggy laughing. If I force him to stand up I 
>> don't have a free hand to wash it. If I let go, he walks away. He doesn't 
>> make any noises or byte or anything bad like that.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will be able to get it when I am grooming him because if he stands up, 
>> I can spray it with him little hose in the tub. If he sits down, he will 
>> sit in the sudsy water and the tub has a sort of tie down so I don't have 
>> to worry about him walking off.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Hooper" <hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>
>>
>>> What is his response when you try to wash the area? If he won't let you
>>> use a wipe on it, how will he respond when you try to bathe it?
>>> I guess I'm confused by the "won't let me" part--does he squeal? Bite?
>>> Bark? Try to run away? Some dogs are just uncomfortable with their
>>> handlers trying to do something and will try to get out of it by
>>> dramatizing--especially shepherds. I remember at TSE, we had to practice
>>> giving our dogs pills--they were Vitamin E pills. Bailey didn't like my
>>> hand down his throat, so he would squirm and wriggle and make it seem 
>>> like
>>> I was making him do something horrible. However, after I communicated to
>>> him that I didn't care how much he complained and did it anyway, he
>>> eventually realized that if he accepted it quietly, things would go 
>>> better
>>> for him--usually with lots of praise after the pill was swallowed. Many
>>> people have told me that shepherds are drama queens. This seems to be
>>> true--at least in Bailey's case--he can make a stepped on tail sound 
>>> like
>>> a severed tail. Bailey has also had the runs before, getting some
>>> chocolate pudding under his tail. This did make him quite aromatic.
>>> However, I calmly laid him down and cleaned the area with a warm soapy
>>> rag. The dog shouldn't be "not letting you" do anything--you are its
>>> master; however, if you believe that the area is actually painful and 
>>> that
>>> he is not just trying to get out of an uncomfortable experience, then
>>> never mind. Just some food for thought.
>>> Robert Hooper
>>> Hooper.90 at buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>> The Ohio State University
>>> 0653 Buckeye-Cuyahoga CT
>>> 653 Cuyahoga Court
>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>> (740) 856-8195
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:34 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggy B.O.
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone for your response, I will ask the vet. I think it may be
>>> an anal gland or skin issue. I am going to take him to the groomers
>>> tomorrow, and see if I can solve it by washing him. The issue arose on
>>> Friday when he got extremely sick and had the runs wicked badly, for 
>>> some
>>> inexplicable reason. I am hoping it is an issue of having some stuff 
>>> stuck
>>> in his thick fur. He won't let me brush near or use one of those pet 
>>> wipes
>>> on the area in question. I am hoping that if when I bathe him if I pay
>>> particular attention to his belly, the inside of the back legs, and 
>>> under
>>> the tail, I will hopefully alleviate the smell. If this does not meet 
>>> with
>>> success, I will bring him to the vet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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