[nagdu] Promulgating the Myth
Larry D. Keeler
lkeeler at comcast.net
Wed Feb 29 00:15:51 UTC 2012
Thanks Marion. This should help me inform folks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Promulgating the Myth
> Dear All,
> as requested, here is the link to the October 1995 Braille Monitor.
>
> http://nfb.org/Images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm95/brlm9510.htm
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Promulgating the Myth
>
>
>> Or, at least the article reference. It would help to explain why NFB
>> some times takes sort of a hard line on dogs. I have heard some members
>> who never even had pet dogs complain. Some of the rational ones did
>> explain that some folks don't clean up after or let there dogs mis
>> behave. I have seen a few folks who really do this but they are in the
>> minority.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Reinhard Stebner" <raydar11011 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Promulgating the Myth
>>
>>
>>> Would it be possible to be provided with the link of the Braille Monitor
>>> that this issue was discussed?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:52 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Promulgating the Myth
>>>
>>> Juanita,
>>> The reason there is the impression that the NFB is anti guide dog is
>>> that it is in the best interest of another organization to promulgate
>>> that
>>> myth. In support of this contention, they point to an issue of the
>>> Braille
>>> Monitor in which there was a very frank discussion of some very serious
>>> issues experienced at one of our national conventions involving several
>>> guide dogs. I was at that convention and know that the issue had a very
>>> serious impact on the image of the NFB as it related to the hospitality
>>> industry, causing us to have challenges securing venues and decent rates
>>> for
>>>
>>> our convention. This incident and these discussions led to the current
>>> policies we have concerning leaving our dogs unattended in guest rooms
>>> during NFB-sponsored events.
>>> The NFB is supportive of whatever method of independent travel one
>>> wishes to use. The National Association of Guide Dog Users is one of the
>>> strongest, largest, and fastest growing divisions in the movement!
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> 813-626-2789
>>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>>> HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why do people get the impression that the NFB is antiguide dog? I've
>>>> heard that a lot, and I just found it strange because even my NFB
>>>> chapter president has a guide dog himself. Why do people forpulate
>>>> their own ideas?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Juanita And Anise
>>>>
>>>> On 2/27/12, Marion Gwizdala <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Larry & William,
>>>>> Well, technically, I'm from Michigan - Bay City/Essexville!
>>>>> (smile)
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> in Tampa, Florida now! I'll bet there are quite a few guide dog users
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Great Wolverine State, we just need to shake them out of the woods!
>>>>> One
>>>>> of
>>>>> the challenges is letting guide dog users know that the NFB is not
>>>>> anti
>>>>> guide dog, as they are led to believe by those in whose best interest
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>> to say such things and helping them understand why we need them in our
>>>>> movement. Michigan has some laws that are not congruent with the ADA
>>>>> that
>>>>> need revising and a Michigan NAGDU division is the best option to
>>>>> create
>>>>> these changes. Your affiliate leadership is very supportive of
>>>>> organizing
>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> division, we just need to get the ball rolling.
>>>>> How about we schedule a conference call and spread the word about
>>>>> it
>>>>> throughout the state! Pick a date 3 - 4 weeks from now, any day but
>>>>> Thursday, and I will help you get it started. If you want to chat
>>>>> about
>>>>> it,
>>>>> please give me a call. My contact information is below my signature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>>>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users (NAGDU)
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>> 813-626-2789
>>>>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>>>>> HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:55 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I'm hoping to find! I'm getting ready to talk to the
>>>>>> Ohio
>>>>>> Association and see if they'll let us wonderful folks from up here
>>>>>> join!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:46 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] a question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i'm just curious, but are there any people on this list from
>>>>>>> Michigan
>>>>>>> (aside from Larry and myself)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
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