[nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane

Natalie nrorrell at qwest.net
Fri Jan 6 16:14:03 UTC 2012 

Hey Lyn,
Might you be thinking of "Louie Louie" (spelling?) by the Kingston Trio? 
Never heard that song "Charlie" that you mentioned.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane


> "Charley on the MTA" was a very popular song in the late 1950s or early 
> 1960s - think it was sung by the Kingston Trio.  So, yeah, anyone over at 
> least 55 would remember it.
>
> It is amazing how much more crowded the streets in Boston are compared to 
> San Diego.  Sometimes I really have to look hard for a crowded place to 
> give Landon crowd practise.  Usually street fairs work well and sometimes 
> at the Embarcadero when a cruise ship is in port and it is a wonderful 
> weekend day when the sun shines and the temps are in the mid 70s during 
> the summer. Most people drive here and don't walk - or rather it is hard 
> to walk some places because Southern California is so geared to cars 
> rather than walking, biking, or puplic transportation.
> Landon likes the crowds so he isn't bored and has alot to watch out for 
> than a boring walk in the neighborhoods - except for Hillcrest - where 
> there's hardly any people on the sidewalks.
>
> Lyn and Landon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:34 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>
>
>> Lol. True.  Funny how so many people from all over the country know about 
>> this song.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>
>>
>>> But, you can get off the thing and not have you're lunch thrown every 
>>> day!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not having been around way back then, I wouldn't know, but I would 
>>>> assume so, but, the T still costs a lot of money. Almost $7.00 to ride 
>>>> the commuter rail, something similar for the boat, just under 2 bucks 
>>>> for the subway, busses, Greene line trolley, and whatnot. Parking at 
>>>> one of the T stations is also quite expensive. However, parking in the 
>>>> city can run up to $50 a day depending ware u are parking. At the 
>>>> parking lot next to my doarm it is $30 a day. Prices around hear are 
>>>> ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't fifteen cents a lot of money back then though?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>
>>>>> If only the MTA now the MBTA or to us locals simply the T was only 15 
>>>>> cense
>>>>> like it is in the song. It's up over $1.50 or something like that now. 
>>>>> It
>>>>> varies by station and line what they charge. I just lode up my 
>>>>> "Charley
>>>>> Card" and refill it when it runs out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To keep this on subject, I have always used my cane my entire life, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> notice the varying reactions when I have it, and when I don't because 
>>>>> I put
>>>>> it down to do something or whatnot. I am still trying to convince my 
>>>>> dad to
>>>>> walk around the city with one of my old canes just to observe the 
>>>>> reactions,
>>>>> but he refuses. However, he still says that people react to me no
>>>>> differently than they do to him. Somehow I find this hard to believe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, Larry, I did finally return and met Charlie on the MTA as 
>>>>>> wwell!
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't care about the stares either - and yeah, hope folks liked 
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> they saw!  Nobody ever asked me for a date, either - sigh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just didn't want to use the MTA for fear of never returning!  I
>>>>>>> understand your feelings though.  I myself have never really cared 
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> what everyone else thaught.  Yah, I was always kind of cocky that 
>>>>>>> way. I
>>>>>>> remember while attending Northern Michigan University in 1981, when 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> gave my cane to a roommate.  He was really unnerved by everyones 
>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>> I followed him through the isles and folks thaught I was his 
>>>>>>> keepper!
>>>>>>> When he gave me back my cane, he asked how I could stand all the 
>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>> I told him I usually don't notice them but when I do, I hope they 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> what they're seeing!  Especialy the girls!!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:14 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Buddy,
>>>>>>>> I think this is very true in that some folks would rather have 
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> think they are drunk rtather than someone seeing that they are 
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> visually impaired or blind.  That is the stigma of blindness 
>>>>>>>> talking!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember back in the early 1970s when I moved to Boston and had 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> travel in an urban envirnment on my own.  Previously to that, I was
>>>>>>>> always with someone because there was no public transportation at 
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> and I rode everywhere in a car.  If I did walk, it was on quiet
>>>>>>>> residential streets going to or coming home from school.  There was 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> shopping center nearby but on my side of a very busy street so I 
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> had to cross that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Boston, my friends introduced me to a white cane - I had never 
>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>> one before!  The blind people I grew up with never used canes. 
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> went sighted guide with family members.  At that time I could see 
>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>> well although I was still legally blind.  I could get around pretty 
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> without any travel aids.  But at night, I had NO vision and needed 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> cane. Previously, I NEVER went out at night except for Halloween 
>>>>>>>> where I
>>>>>>>> knew the neighborhood very well and next to no car traffic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I started to use a cane, I did feel very self concious and 
>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>> stuck out rather than blending in as I did in the past.  I did lose
>>>>>>>> enough vision to force the issue when a car almost ran me and my
>>>>>>>> roommate over - her dog did a great traffic check!  I felt that I 
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> now in more danger without the cane than with it.  With the cane,
>>>>>>>> drivers can see that I had a vision problem.  So, I realized that 
>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>> time to use the cane and it was good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AS far as being a bigger target for crime, yeah, this can happen 
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the perp woould know the blind person could never identify them in 
>>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>> or to a police officer.  I think we just have to be more cautious 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> aware of our surroundings than most sighted people do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Prior to cane use, people would think I was an idiot if I made a
>>>>>>>> crossing error because I couldn't see the signal - days before 
>>>>>>>> audible
>>>>>>>> signals, folks!  With the cane, people didn't think this way 
>>>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>>>> outright. They most likely thought I was now an idiot BECAUSE I was
>>>>>>>> blind! LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that the time someone needs to start using a cane and their
>>>>>>>> resistance to it isn't too unlike when a person has to give up 
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> drivers license.  The driver gives up freedom and mobility.  the 
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> cane user gives up being able to melt into the rest of the crowd 
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> something to make him stick out like a sore thumb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using a cane is a decision that needs to be made by the person and
>>>>>>>> sometimes a person needs a wake up call when they almost get 
>>>>>>>> killed.
>>>>>>>> But I hope that most people don't wait to get killed before using a
>>>>>>>> cane!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did finally do cane travel lessons under blindfold and found it 
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> beneficial to allowing my other senses to give me feedback that my 
>>>>>>>> eyes
>>>>>>>> couldn't give me.  Although I prefer using a dog, I still do use my 
>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>> regularly - especialy when grocery shopping when I have to wrestle 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> cart on and off the bus and the dog gets in the way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy Honakka every one!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:34 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who 
>>>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>>it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude, 
>>>>>>>>>slow-witted, or
>>>>>>>>>any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they are
>>>>>>>>>blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less 
>>>>>>>>>capable,
>>>>>>>>>less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly) less 
>>>>>>>>>of a
>>>>>>>>>human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted and
>>>>>>>>>[insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as blind. 
>>>>>>>>>Much
>>>>>>>>>better.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys explain?
>>>>>>>>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's 
>>>>>>>>>> drunk. I
>>>>>>>>>> told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>> "need
>>>>>>>>>> a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking he's
>>>>>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one 
>>>>>>>>>> realized I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness. 
>>>>>>>>>> Which of
>>>>>>>>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis 
>>>>>>>>>> Pigmentosa.
>>>>>>>>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went 
>>>>>>>>>>> camping
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking stick. 
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still very
>>>>>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thing is,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had 
>>>>>>>>>>> 20/200
>>>>>>>>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is heavier. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>>>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm hurt 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a free 
>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or acquaintances
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some mental 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> midget
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> grabbing my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know where 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they saw 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me. If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs? I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few backups 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you keep 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the strap 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster type 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is quite 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I had 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a cane 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane as a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long NFB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face.I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane???????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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