[nagdu] Scary guide dogs

Sat Jan 21 22:33:43 UTC 2012

Hm... We'll work on that. Maybe that can be me new line of work? 
Training big scary guide dogs? /lol/

On 01/21/2012 02:14 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
> Tami,
>
>
>
> Can I get an English Mastiff as my next guide dog? Preferably one over
> 300lbs!
>
>
>
> That will give the people something to talk about.
>
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Scary guide dogs
>
>
>> Ah... Come to Portland any time. We'll do downtown! /lol/
>>
>> A friend and I once entertained ourselves by conjecturing on the best
>> breed of guide dog based on the criteria of how much it would inhibit
>> drunks at bus stops. She is a young, petite and very pretty woman, so
>> the being hit upon by such folks at bus stops is an ongoing thing for
>> her, too. Or on the bus. Or the train...
>>
>> So, we decided that the best guide dog for a petite woman who is
>> chronically hit upon by drunks at bus stops is... The Irish Wolfhound!
>> /lol/ If it doesn't have to stand on its hind legs to literally look
>> them in the eye, and if it's head is a big as their torso, then there
>> is some chance they will just go off an leave a girl alone! /lol/
>>
>> It was especially funny because we then had to design a special
>> harness, especially for her because she is *very* petite, so that the
>> handle could be used from underneath the dog. /lol/
>>
>> I've had drunks hit on my poodle, BTW... I am *not* making that up.
>> You know you're getting old when... /lol/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 01/21/2012 12:43 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>> Tami,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I said, a lot less intimidating.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have only seen my dog's "back off" look once. He gave that treatment
>>> to a drunken homeless man who was hassling me for money that I was not
>>> going to give him
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Watch the drunk run. Haha.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Kinney"
>>> <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> OMG! I'm scared now! /lol/
>>>>
>>>> Let's see, I'm 5 ft. 5, slender and a total Shirley Temple clone... My
>>>> poodle is 54 lbs. of leg and big dark eyes in her black, black curls...
>>>>
>>>> Nope! Not scary!
>>>>
>>>> So you see why I cannot take people seriously when they get all
>>>> screamy and squally with fear of us! /lol/
>>>>
>>>> Then there was the time we were in the midst of a public poodle
>>>> mugging... And finally, a nervous voice from well back in the crowd of
>>>> admirers I was trying to fend off asked breathily, "Is it a *pit
>>>> bull*?"
>>>>
>>>> It's probably a good thing I busted up laughing too hard to talk
>>>> because all I could think of to say was, "Yes! The long-nosed, curly
>>>> coated kind! They're the ones that are *really* dangerous!" Probably
>>>> this would not be the best thing to say in front of a crowd because it
>>>> would give the wrong impression of guide dogs or something.
>>>>
>>>> Fortunately, the rest of the admiring fans had picked up quite a bit
>>>> of information and explained it all to the fearful one. Whew! I don't
>>>> think anyone was noticing me and my struggles to get my mirth under
>>>> some sort of control. /lol/ Is it a pit bull? Honestly!
>>>>
>>>> Poodles also stare at people, but because they do not have the
>>>> fearsome rep and because their eyes protrude a bit and are more almond
>>>> shaped and tilted, it just makes people coo more. Only people who know
>>>> poodles recognize Mitzi's "back off" look for what it is and back off.
>>>> She has somehow learned to work the cute and the eye contact to keep
>>>> people from being so intrusive. I'm not sure how, but we seem to be
>>>> pretty slick at crowd management these days. Whew! People still stand
>>>> around and ask questions ad infinitum and all, but they at least are
>>>> not standing on top of us with their hands in the curls! Sheesh!
>>>>
>>>> There are days when I would much prefer to look dangerous.
>>>>
>>>> Funny that your dog's obedience would scare people.. But I guess
>>>> you're right. It's the police dog reputation, along with the tall guy
>>>> with a buzz cut... So I wonder what their guilty consciences are
>>>> telling them to worry about. /lol/
>>>>
>>>> Tami
>>>>
>>>> On 01/21/2012 11:14 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>> Tami,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A cute curly poodle is far less intimidating than an 80lb male
>>>>> shepherd.
>>>>> My dog also stares at people witch people find unnerving.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thing, you are far less intimidating looking than me. Picture
>>>>> me, I am about 6ft tall, clean shaven with a buzzed short haircut, and
>>>>> don't often smile. Then add a dog that looks like a police dog.
>>>>> Several
>>>>> people have asked me if my dog was a drug dog.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> People also find it scary how obedient my dog is. Even when not on
>>>>> harness he walks on heal. Sometimes he will even walk at heal off
>>>>> leash;
>>>>> however, I don't do this often, except when visiting people in my
>>>>> dorm.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> People associate obedient dogs with law enforcement.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Kinney"
>>>>> <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I always grin maniacally at them and then ignore them. /lol/ Okay,
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> as many people are terrified of a cute, curly poodle as they are of
>>>>>> GSDs. Mostly my problem is that they are too unafraid and I have to
>>>>>> protect my dog from them. Sheesh! Wanna trade? NOT! /lol/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When other people insist on trying to make me responsible somehow for
>>>>>> their irrational fears, I find myself wondering if I should let them
>>>>>> in on the news: There's this new kinda doctor and all, based on some
>>>>>> things that were discovered just yesterday by some German guy or
>>>>>> something... Ford? Fraud? Um.. Oh! Froyd! /lol/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take a pill!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This helps me with the maniacal grin, you see, and keeps me
>>>>>> entertained while I'm grinning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hard to have an intelligent dialog or even light elevator chat with
>>>>>> someone when they're screaming about your dog's attacking them while
>>>>>> failing to notice a very important detail about that... The dog, I
>>>>>> assume, was not attacking them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good grief! What kind of kids do they send to that school of yours
>>>>>> anyway? Don't they have some requirement that an accepted applicant
>>>>>> for schooling have, say, a brain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, you're getting your feet wet in all the extra fun parts of
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> a guide dog user, aren't you. People need to get over themselves,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> really do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/21/2012 09:32 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes, when people get too interested in my business or
>>>>>>> watching me,
>>>>>>> I give them the one fingered salute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone loves my dog; however, someone is apparently making
>>>>>>> noise. My
>>>>>>> response to them is likewise the one fingered salute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I challenge anyone with a problem with me to grow a pair of balls
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> tell it to my face. However, this won't happen, instead, people will
>>>>>>> continue to go behind my back, and cause administrative problems
>>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some people are so terrified of my dog; they refuse to be near me.
>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>> asking directions from the security guard, and this girl refused to
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>> in, just standing outside in the snow. She did not come in to I
>>>>>>> left.
>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A girl was in the elevator with me, and shrieked the entire way
>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>> Because she was afraid that the dog would attack her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> People are so stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Weiner"
>>>>>>> <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:13 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Honestly, the way these guys seem to be carrying on it's as if no
>>>>>>>> one had
>>>>>>>> ever had a pet dog or a guide dog before...dogs going to the
>>>>>>>> bathroom on
>>>>>>>> sidewalk, imagine that..and oh my god, a little discoloration,
>>>>>>>> my God
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> is the world coming to.
>>>>>>>> You are just so inconvenient to the college population I'm so sorry
>>>>>>>> for your
>>>>>>>> college that they have to undergo the inconvenience of having you
>>>>>>>> there with
>>>>>>>> your guide dog.
>>>>>>>> That, of course, was sarcasm for those who don't know wit.--smile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Plus the fact that you must be feeling like you're being stared at
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> time, it doesn't help your stress level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of marilyn
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 11:57 AM
>>>>>>>> To: nagdu
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Mark's dogs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>> Since you are still in training with your dog what does the trainer
>>>>>>>> recommend you do since he is aware of the situation?
>>>>>>>> Since you are picking up after your dog I would carry a bottle of
>>>>>>>> water and
>>>>>>>> after the dog goes spill the water on the spot where the dog went.
>>>>>>>> Or you
>>>>>>>> can carry a baggy of baking soda and just put some down after
>>>>>>>> the dog
>>>>>>>> goes.
>>>>>>>> it not only absorbs order for number one but will absorb the urine
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> help with the marks left after you pick up the number 2. I use that
>>>>>>>> a lot
>>>>>>>> in the summer when I am out with Anna where she goes to busy.
>>>>>>>> Marilyn and Anna
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