[nagdu] The look, snow plows as pooper scoopers and other things.

Tue Jan 24 21:29:59 UTC 2012

Rebecca,

You raise a very good point for many, many situations. If your intuition 
or feelings are telling you something by causing you to feel uneasy or 
unsafe... It could very well be that some telltale has come through to 
your deeper brain that simply has not yet filtered into your conscious 
thought process.

If in doubt, don't! Take the next elevator. Turn around and go the other 
way. Maybe you're just being paranoid or you also feel you're being 
silly giving into your fears and being a big chicken... Whatever, that's 
generally what goes on with me in those situations. /smile/ Still, is it 
worth my life to prove a point to myself? So I feel like a silly old 
chicken instead of validating my image of myself. /smile/

So, then each of us will have that subtle information at the time of 
such a decision. Wounded pride by letting Ms. Nice Woman pick up the dog 
poop in front of the snow plow? Or bending over myself to search for 
poop in the snow in front of the snow plow? In my imaginary scenario 
where I am the one making the decision, I notice that I cannot predict 
the behavior of the snowplow because it is making a lot of noise which 
mutes out my ability to gain insight into the driver.

Also, that is one big, scary snowplow!

I have found as my dog and I have gone about and trained and worked 
together, that I also listen to her, through those faint signals she 
gives me to indicate what she thinks about any given course of action. 
Over time, I have had plenty of opportunity to note that she is very 
consistently right. /smi

On 01/24/2012 08:58 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
> It really depends on how I felt about the woman. If for some reason I felt uncomfortable with her presence (and we've all been there) I'd say no. If I got the feeling she really did want to help, then sure.
> Really, what we'd do doesn't matter because every encounter any of us have with any other human will not be what you had.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:40 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The look, snow plows as pooper scoopers and other things.
>
> Basically, without walking a long way in a snow storm, the only place for
> the dog to go was the edge of a street so narrow that no one ever drives
> down it. I was in the way, because there is no way to be there and not be in
> the way. This is predominantly a walking only street.
>
>
>
> My job is working at the check in desk at the computer lab. My coworker did
> not show up because of the snow.
>
>
>
> I am going to ask someone to help me find a better place tomorrow, because I
> will be in that building a lot.
>
>
>
> But, the question at hand is, would you have let the woman help you, or
> remained adamant about doing it yourself.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray"<cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The look,snow plows as pooper scoopers and other
> things.
>
>
>> How is there absolutely no other alternative? What do you do that you left
>> unattended, and could you have arranged to have it attended? I am not sure
>> I understand the whole situation.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>
>>> No alternatives were available.  This street is not even paved. It is
>>> cobble stone, and so narrow, a car can hardly fit down it. It would
>>> typically not be a problem. In fact, normally there are barriers to
>>> prevent vehicles from driving down this street.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray"<cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The look,snow plows as pooper scoopers and other
>>> things.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why were you using the middle of a street? That is dangerous even if
>>>> there isn't much traffic. I would use a quasi sidewalk or stay alongside
>>>> the curb or whatever passes for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The look, snow plows as pooper scoopers and other things.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My dogs "the look" is more an "I can eat you for a snack" look.
>>>>> However, he never barks or does anything more aggressive. His ears are
>>>>> alert and up, not forward and aggressive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I just took my dog out, and pissed off a snow plow driver. My dog
>>>>> was doing his thing in the middle of a small side street, and a plow
>>>>> decided he wanted to plow me up. Thankfully he stopped.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a different area than my typical area. Much less safe in that,
>>>>> cars sometimes drive threw hear.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What would you do? A lady offered to run out and pick up the pile,
>>>>> because the plow had to get threw. I let her, because there was an
>>>>> enormous snow plow there, but I felt bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think she thought I was going to leave it, witch I wasn't going to
>>>>> do, but the large truck approaching was making me quite anxious
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts, advice, suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am definitely not going to switch relief areas again if I can help
>>>>> it. I had to use this one, because it was outside ware I work. I got to
>>>>> find some ware safer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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