[nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection

Wed Jun 27 14:17:59 UTC 2012

How could your dog test positive? That's weird? What, then did they do to your dog?

Cindy Lou

On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Passle Helminski wrote:

> They are in place and I am filing a complaint with TSA.  My guide tested positive in Erie and Chicago and I did not.  The way they miss handle my guide will be the complaint I am filing today.
> 
> Passle
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> 
>> Steve,
>>   The information I was given indicated these new procedures were expected to be fully implemented by the end of April. As with all things bureaucratic, perhaps it did not get implemented on the time line expected!
>> 
>> Marion
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>> 
>>> When did this go into effect?  When I flew to get my new guide back in May,
>>> I had none of this occur.
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:27 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>>   Though I mentioned this in my previous message, swabbing for Explosive
>>> Trace Detection is done on anyone boarding a plane with an animal. It has
>>> absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one touches the dog or that the
>>> dog is a service dog. The swab is an absorbent cloth that contains no
>>> chemical. It is rubbed across the palm of the hands and placed in a machine
>>> that detects trace amounts of explosives.
>>> 
>>> Marion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>> 
>>>> Well, probably, but they won't swab you if you don't touch the dog.
>>>> 
>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, I missed the part about that. So what do you do. Oh, you just bring
>>>>> them through with you, right? So if you do that, then they are going to
>>>>> have to wand you because who can say what set it off?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> the regs state that if you contact your dog while walking through the
>>>>>> detector and after, they can swab your hands.  You can of curse touch
>>>>>> the leash because you have to keep your dog under control but you can't
>>>>>> touch the dog.  also, no longer can we walk through the detector and
>>>>>> have our dogs at sit and then call them through.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> margo and Arrow----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack"
>>>>>> <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:53 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop]
>>>>>> Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Margo,
>>>>>>> I was wondering about the swab thing.  When I flew to Montana in
>>>>>>> April, my SSP (who interprets things into ASL for me) went through
>>>>>>> security with me.  I had Laveau sit, walked through the detector
>>>>>>> thing, and then called Laveau.  I turned around and out of nowhere,
>>>>>>> these huge gloved hands grabbed my hands.  They weren't my SSP's
>>>>>>> hands, and since I'm Deafblind--  and use ASL tactually-- my ssp
>>>>>>> couldn't tell me what was going on with some guy basically removing
>>>>>>> any ability I have for communication.  It was scary.  He was rubbing
>>>>>>> the cloth thing on my hands, and finally, my SSP explained to me about
>>>>>>> swabbing.  Next time I'll expect it.
>>>>>>> If I don't touch my dog while in security, will they still have to do
>>>>>>> it? I need to find regulations about this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches:
>>>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Laveau, Baylee,!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Dance, even if you have to warn others to get out of the way first."
>>>>>>> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>>>>> AIM: brissysgirl
>>>>>>> 
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