[nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection

Wed Jun 27 15:47:09 UTC 2012

For Marsha

I ahve a friend who is blind  who would like to join this list.  Can
you please give me the email address for her to register?
Thanks!

On 6/27/12, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Its that inconsistency that is so very frustrating about flying these days.
> No two airports are the same, and no two airport employees treat me a cane
> or guide dog user the same all of the time. And they wonder why people have
> so much trouble when they go to fly, what they can take, what they can't
> take, what to take off, what to do and not to do. *sigh*
>
> Okay sorry rant over, LOL
>
> Marsha
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:44 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>
> I think inconsistency is actually consistent when it comes to the TSA.
> I just flew earlier this month.  I had my cane but every time I went
> through security how they wanted me to proceed and how they checked out
> my cane was different.   I've just come to accept that security will be
> a surprise every time.
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 6/27/2012 8:32 AM, Michael Hingson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Actually, there are still inconsistencies.  I traveled somewhere in May
>> where my hands were not swabbed.  I have yet to see any rule implemented
>> %100 of the time.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 05:11 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>
>> Steve,
>>      The information I was given indicated these new procedures were
> expected
>> to be fully implemented by the end of April. As with all things
>> bureaucratic, perhaps it did not get implemented on the time line
> expected!
>>
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven Johnson"<blinddog3 at charter.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>
>>
>>> When did this go into effect?  When I flew to get my new guide back in
>>> May,
>>> I had none of this occur.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:27 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Swabbing for Explosive Trace Detection
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>     Though I mentioned this in my previous message, swabbing for
> Explosive
>>> Trace Detection is done on anyone boarding a plane with an animal. It
>>> has
>>> absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one touches the dog or that
>>> the
>>> dog is a service dog. The swab is an absorbent cloth that contains no
>>> chemical. It is rubbed across the palm of the hands and placed in a
>>> machine
>>> that detects trace amounts of explosives.
>>>
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Margo and Arrow"<margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, probably, but they won't swab you if you don't touch the dog.
>>>>
>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray"<cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:
>>>> [Buddys-dogscoop]Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I missed the part about that. So what do you do. Oh, you just
>>>>> bring
>>>>> them through with you, right? So if you do that, then they are going
>>>>> to
>>>>> have to wand you because who can say what set it off?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> the regs state that if you contact your dog while walking through the
>>>>>> detector and after, they can swab your hands.  You can of curse touch
>>>>>> the leash because you have to keep your dog under control but you
> can't
>>>>>> touch the dog.  also, no longer can we walk through the detector and
>>>>>> have our dogs at sit and then call them through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> margo and Arrow----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pawpower Pack"
>>>>>> <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:53 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [Buddys-dogscoop]
>>>>>> Fwd:[Blindattic]NewCompanyAnnouncement
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Margo,
>>>>>>> I was wondering about the swab thing.  When I flew to Montana in
>>>>>>> April, my SSP (who interprets things into ASL for me) went through
>>>>>>> security with me.  I had Laveau sit, walked through the detector
>>>>>>> thing, and then called Laveau.  I turned around and out of nowhere,
>>>>>>> these huge gloved hands grabbed my hands.  They weren't my SSP's
>>>>>>> hands, and since I'm Deafblind--  and use ASL tactually-- my ssp
>>>>>>> couldn't tell me what was going on with some guy basically removing
>>>>>>> any ability I have for communication.  It was scary.  He was rubbing
>>>>>>> the cloth thing on my hands, and finally, my SSP explained to me
> about
>>>>>>> swabbing.  Next time I'll expect it.
>>>>>>> If I don't touch my dog while in security, will they still have to
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> it? I need to find regulations about this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches:
>>>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Laveau, Baylee,!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dance, even if you have to warn others to get out of the way
>>>>>>> first."
>>>>>>> http://pawpower4me.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>>>>> AIM: brissysgirl
>>>>>>>
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Debbie Cole

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