[nagdu] crowded trains

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Thu Mar 1 03:46:01 UTC 2012 

None of my dogs have ever gotten out of my way. If I trip over them they all say, "What's your problem?" The pet dogs, on the other hand, have always been quite likely to move.

On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Marsha Drenth wrote:

> That might be because you are still a new team. Em did the same, now she
> moves. 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> 
> ----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:01 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
> 
> no. he does not get out of the way. I accidentally step on him and he
> doesn't 
> care.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
> 
> 
>> Hahaha. Does he get out of the way for you? Lexia knows that I am blind 
>> and will jump out of the way for me.
>> I am also able to reposition Lexia, but she is a lab who is less than 70 
>> pounds. That being said, she does not mind being repositioned. As a matter
> 
>> of fact, one of her favorite games when out of harness is "try to roll me 
>> over", which can get really silly because of the way she uses her legs and
> 
>> paws.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>> 
>> 
>>> He does not protest, I just mostly slide/shove him to the smallest 
>>> possible area or under the seat. Sometimes when I do that to my dog 
>>> people are afraid I am going to get bitten, but my dog and for that 
>>> matter all well trained dogs don't mind being handled. I am gentle, 
>>> mostly working with him and forcefully encouraging rather than forcing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I call my dog "expando dog" when he figures how to take up the entire 
>>> Flore space available. The best part is, if someone is trying to get 
>>> past, he just stares at them, and waits for them to step over him.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't let my dog sprawl in public unless there is plenty of room.  Like
> 
>>> in some of my classes there is like 4 ft between my desk and the wall 
>>> that nothing is in because of the way the room is arranged also, this 
>>> space is impossible to walk threw so it's not a bother to anyone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> I bet that is a site to see. Em is only like 60 pounds, but takes up the
>>>> floor space of like 3 or 4 dogs. Do they teach them at the guide dog 
>>>> schools
>>>> to do the shepard sprawl?
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:03 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>> 
>>>> My dog will do the same thing. I basically pick him up, and shape him 
>>>> into
>>>> the space I want him to fit into. Lol. I have an 80 lb dog. Lol
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> This brings up a interesting thing. Emma is a shepard, and when we are 
>>>>> at
>>>>> school, or any where for that matter, she will do the shepard sprawl. 
>>>>> You
>>>>> know like takes up as much of the floor that she possibly can. So if we
>>>>> are
>>>>> on a crowded train, how do I make my pup be small?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:26 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] crowded trains
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, first of all, I agree with you on the business of not caring 
>>>>> about
>>>>> standing. It is fine with me. I sometimes feel I can get the dog in a 
>>>>> bit
>>>>> safer place if I do sit, but I try to keep him small as possible and 
>>>>> stand
>>>>> behind him to protect his tail. I try to refuse seats, and sometimes it
>>>>> works. Other times it does not work. Maybe this is a cop out, but when 
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't, I just go ahead and take it to get the situation finished. I'm
>>>>> older and I know I can stand on the train or bus; some of those folks I
>>>>> won't see anymore; we all want to get where we are going, so I leave it
>>>>> alone. But I will protest. There are times when it has worked to do 
>>>>> that,
>>>>> times when not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>> 
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