[nagdu] Going Home with the Wrong Dog was Re: could have, would have, should have

Natalie nrorrell at qwest.net
Wed Mar 7 21:17:25 UTC 2012


Hi Cindy,
I wholeheartedly agree with your statements.  There's good and bad in every 
school, just as it is so with people and dogs, smile.  While I've had good 
experiences at GDA, not everyone will.  It just depends on the situation in 
the grand scheme of things.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going Home with the Wrong Dog was Re: could have,would 
have, should have


>I really think that is a tremendously judgmental thing to say. Even knowing 
>what we know of this story, we cannot declare that the school, whichever 
>one it is, is not good. I have had "gut feelings" about a dog, but I didn't 
>firmly express them because I thought the trainers knew best. Dogs, like 
>people, continue to evolve. Sometimes the very worst of us actually 
>improves. Sometimes that happens with dogs. Daniel said in the message, 
>too, that he let pass some of the bumps on doorways and such. Well, though 
>I'm not criticizing, that didn't help the situation either. I have had 
>trainers tell me that if I did this, the dog's transgressions would 
>increase because it got away with doing that. We all do these things 
>sometimes. I mean, we all participate in these situations. The staff made a 
>mistake; that probably wasn't the only one ever made by the school; but to 
>judge that because this has happened the school is not good is not 
>necessarily a fair statement. This is, at least, ho
> w I am feeling about it.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:00 AM, keri wrote:
>
>> I agree with this. Lee, yes the school does matter. if the school is good 
>> they would have never let that dog leave with him in the first place, or 
>> maybe the instructor's abilities really need to be looked closer at.
>> keri
>>
>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want 
>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will 
>> speak my heart."
>> --Robert Sexton
>>
>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth 
>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart 
>> somewhere to receive it."
>> --Ivan Panin
>>
>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put 
>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Leigland" 
>> <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going Home with the Wrong Dog was Re: could 
>> have,would have, should have
>>
>>
>>> Hi, I don't expect dogs to be perfect but sometimes people have gut 
>>> feelings about dogs or situations that just shouldn't be ignored by 
>>> trainers of the dogs or other staff at the school.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>
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